C&C 30OD values today in Sailing Anarchy Posted April 17 16 minutes ago, jackolantern said: Because you can only make a 30 footer go a certain speed upwind, and to make them go faster downwind you have to add wetted surface area (that makes them slow in light air) so you shrink down on the size of the foils to cut back on wetted surface area (or add a shitload of sail area) which make the boats very twitchy when the breeze gets up. All of Mark Mills' recent boats have that same tricky problem with control. The King 40, C&C 30, Summit 35, etc. If your main trimmer isn't mainlining adderal, you're going to have upwind wipeout problems and good luck on any kind of power reach. The IC37 (which is just a scaled up C&C 30) was so bad out of the box that the NYYC demanded a redesign of the rudder to provide better control for amateur helmsmen - even if it meant it would slow the boat down a bit. Did a regatta on Narragansett Bay on one of the demo boats with the full racing team of a prospective owner. We did have pros in the trimming spots and the boat would still do random wind-checks upwind. Didn't the demo boat have a rudder issue. I thought they mentioned that on the test sail we had.