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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.
    • B.J. Porter

      Moderation Team Change   06/16/2017

      After fifteen years of volunteer moderation at SA, I will no longer be part of the moderation team. The decision to step aside is mine, and has been some time in the works but we did not wish to announce it in advance for a number of reasons. It's been fun, but I need my time back for other purposes now. The Underdawg admin account will not be monitored until further notice, as I will be relinquishing control of it along with my administrative privileges. Zapata will continue on as a moderator, and any concerns or issues can be directed to that account or to the Editor until further notice. Anyone interested in helping moderate the forums should reach out to Scot by sending a PM to the Editor account. Please note that I am not leaving the community, I am merely stepping aside from Admin responsibilities and privileges on the site.

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  1. This whole fucking nonesense has turned into such a horse shit, mickey mouse impersonation of a once great sporting event that I haven't been able to bring myself to fake enough interest to even vaguely follow what the fuck is going on in this debacle. I don't want a lengthy explanation of what fucking stage we are at in this mess, because I don't care. I just want to know if we're at the point when someone else can take this goddamn thing away from the fucking BMW Oracle douchebags and possibly bring the cup back in the direction of something that resembles meaningful tradition. Is that happening now? Are we almost there? Is this ridiculous dog and pony show almost over?
  2. So long as they wait until after she wins the election, fine, I couldn't care less.
  3. Right. Just like how we've spent the last eight years investigating George W Bush for the 22 million emails that went missing during his administration, the tens of thousands of illegal torture incidents or the 13 embassy attacks (including 60 deaths)... You have any other dreams you feel like sharing today? Nobody cares about this. Nobody will ever care about it. Wait, you know what, never mind. This is super important, and you should focus all of your attention on spreading the word about this terrible, terrible stain on our nations history. People should know. It's a very good use of your time and energy. I couldn't think of a single more valuable use of time than you spreading the word about this abomination. You are our champion. Good luck.
  4. Of course not, that's utterly ridiculous. It would legitimize the profoundly absurd argument that Senate Republicans have been making. The sitting president makes nominations, period. The Senate is derelict in their duty by not moving forward on considering his nominee. I suspect they've already agreed behind closed doors to pass the nomination through during the lame duck session. Kind of everybody wins in that scenario.
  5. ^ Noone cares Coors. Nobody gives one shit. Your boy is going to lose. But anyway, getting back to the whole locker room thing. You think Trump has been in a locker room since he was a schoolboy? Maybe he really believes that guys still talk like children when they grow up.
  6. When the Republican Party sends their candidates, they're not sending their best. They're sending criminals, they're sending rapists, and some, I assume, are good people.
  7. You send the state police to stop voter registration, of course. http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/in-indiana-police-raid-a-democratic-voter-registration-office
  8. And no one even got fired. Right, and so I'm sure you know that the IG issued a followup to clarify that they didn't mean to imply that the money was missing, only that the documentation and contract files hadn't been adequately maintained, or were otherwise incomplete. In other words, the IG doesn't doubt the legitimacy of the expenses, but would prefer stricter documentation. Think itemized billable hours instead of bulk labor invoices - that's what they meant by 'cannot be accounted for'. Or, you know, if that doesn't fit your narrative, then I guess never mind. Considering that the entire annual budget of the State Department is 66 billion whats 10% among friends. Yeah, so the IG would prefer better records be kept on 10% of the budget. Pretty damning stuff there, absolutely riveting. It's more fun to pretend it went missing though, isn't it? Go ahead, I won't try to stop you. See, here's what's interesting about the criticisms being leveled on the candidates. On the one hand, you have a series of vague suggestions of mismanagement or wrongdoing, and on the other a pretty clear record of actual, demonstrated fraud and illegal activity. Yet, somehow, we're all acting like they are equally troubling. I realize it's not exactly on topic, nonetheless, it's truly fascinating.
  9. I bet you think that money is actually missing, don't you? That's adorable. I think the term the IG used was "cannot be accounted for". That's not so adorable. And no one even got fired. Right, and so I'm sure you know that the IG issued a followup to clarify that they didn't mean to imply that the money was missing, only that the documentation and contract files hadn't been adequately maintained, or were otherwise incomplete. In other words, the IG doesn't doubt the legitimacy of the expenses, but would prefer stricter documentation. Think itemized billable hours instead of bulk labor invoices - that's what they meant by 'cannot be accounted for'. Or, you know, if that doesn't fit your narrative, then I guess never mind.
  10. I bet you think that money is actually missing, don't you? That's adorable.
  11. All his attempts at marketing have been abysmal failures..but he has one and only one area where he is is nevertheless competent: Commercial real estate.His performance doesn't look much like competence even in that market. Forbes magazine had an article about this just today, looking specifically at his performance in the commercial real estate market (using the Financial Times NAREIT All Equity REIT's Index, which measures real estate investment trusts with a broad commercial portfolio and data tracking back to the 1970's). Here's how they graded his performance, beginning with the $200 million commercial real estate portfolio he took over from his father in 1976: "An investment of $200 million in 1976 in the FTSE NAREIT All Equity REIT's Index would have compounded to $23.2 billion by year-end 2015. That is considerably above Mr. Trump's recent self-reported net worth of approximately $10 billion. Mr. Trump has underperformed the real estate market by approximately $13.2 billion, or 57%" That's assuming that you even buy his self reported net worth of $10 billion. So you're saying that the index has gone up over a 100 fold in 40 years. The DJIA has only gone up 20 fold during the same time period. With that calculation a $60,000 investment in real estate in 1976 is worth over $6,000,000. The index is unmanaged and doesn't take into account taxes that must be paid along the way. Trump lived off of his investments for 40 years. Not a good comparison. I'm quoting Forbes magazine, you can take your criticism up with them. Having said that, it does seem like a reasonable Index to pick, given that his business is commercial real estate, and that's exactly what that index tracks. He would have done well living off of his investments for 40 years, or more precisely hiring a professional to manage it for him and then living off of it. There are articles about that too, but I'm sure you know that already. You seem really smart.
  12. All his attempts at marketing have been abysmal failures..but he has one and only one area where he is is nevertheless competent: Commercial real estate. His performance doesn't look much like competence even in that market. Forbes magazine had an article about this just today, looking specifically at his performance in the commercial real estate market (using the Financial Times NAREIT All Equity REIT's Index, which measures real estate investment trusts with a broad commercial portfolio and data tracking back to the 1970's). Here's how they graded his performance, beginning with the $200 million commercial real estate portfolio he took over from his father in 1976: "An investment of $200 million in 1976 in the FTSE NAREIT All Equity REIT's Index would have compounded to $23.2 billion by year-end 2015. That is considerably above Mr. Trump's recent self-reported net worth of approximately $10 billion. Mr. Trump has underperformed the real estate market by approximately $13.2 billion, or 57%" That's assuming that you even buy his self reported net worth of $10 billion.
  13. The thing about the NYT tax issue is that it makes every point about the Donald that Democrats have been saying for months, specifically; 1 - he's actually not that great at business, in fact, he's kind of shit at it 2 - he's a spoiled rich kid who lost his daddy's fortune and remained a spoiled rich kid by using bankruptcy laws to screw other people over 3 - he lacks the integrity to admit when he's wrong 4 - his failure to pay taxes means, if nothing else, that his criticism of other people who don't pay taxes (like the poor, for example) smacks of gross hypocrisy and finally 5 - that this is not the worst thing that he's hiding from the public
  14. It's an interesting thing, this Trump running for president while simultaneously refusing to disclose his tax documents. He is a private citizen today, and there is absolutely no law requiring him to release his tax records while he remains a private citizen. Can anyone here guess who IS required by law to release their tax records? Anyone? The President of the United States.
  15. Do I have this right...Are you saying that a president who is not beholden to his financiers is a bad thing? Who has assured us Trump is not beholden to anyone? Oh, right. Trump. And, we all know what his word is worth. I'm thinking that would be Gov. if I'm reading his post correctly. There seems almost universal criticism that our politicians are bought and paid for. Gov is the first person I can think of who appears to be expressing the view that bought and paid for politicians are desirable. Politicians who aren't bought and paid for are few and far between. Except maybe at the local level. Takes time to earn it. The point isn't that he's beholden to his contributors. The point is that he's a selfish prick, and he doesn't give a fuck what's good for anyone but himself. He's beholden above all else, and in every respect, to protecting his dangerously fragile ego. Speaking only for myself, that is a troubling characteristic for someone who wants to be the head of our military and diplomatic corps.