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  1. This whole fucking nonesense has turned into such a horse shit, mickey mouse impersonation of a once great sporting event that I haven't been able to bring myself to fake enough interest to even vaguely follow what the fuck is going on in this debacle. I don't want a lengthy explanation of what fucking stage we are at in this mess, because I don't care. I just want to know if we're at the point when someone else can take this goddamn thing away from the fucking BMW Oracle douchebags and possibly bring the cup back in the direction of something that resembles meaningful tradition. Is that happening now? Are we almost there? Is this ridiculous dog and pony show almost over?
  2. So long as they wait until after she wins the election, fine, I couldn't care less.
  3. Right. Just like how we've spent the last eight years investigating George W Bush for the 22 million emails that went missing during his administration, the tens of thousands of illegal torture incidents or the 13 embassy attacks (including 60 deaths)... You have any other dreams you feel like sharing today? Nobody cares about this. Nobody will ever care about it. Wait, you know what, never mind. This is super important, and you should focus all of your attention on spreading the word about this terrible, terrible stain on our nations history. People should know. It's a very good use of your time and energy. I couldn't think of a single more valuable use of time than you spreading the word about this abomination. You are our champion. Good luck.
  4. Of course not, that's utterly ridiculous. It would legitimize the profoundly absurd argument that Senate Republicans have been making. The sitting president makes nominations, period. The Senate is derelict in their duty by not moving forward on considering his nominee. I suspect they've already agreed behind closed doors to pass the nomination through during the lame duck session. Kind of everybody wins in that scenario.
  5. ^ Noone cares Coors. Nobody gives one shit. Your boy is going to lose. But anyway, getting back to the whole locker room thing. You think Trump has been in a locker room since he was a schoolboy? Maybe he really believes that guys still talk like children when they grow up.
  6. When the Republican Party sends their candidates, they're not sending their best. They're sending criminals, they're sending rapists, and some, I assume, are good people.
  7. You send the state police to stop voter registration, of course. http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/in-indiana-police-raid-a-democratic-voter-registration-office
  8. And no one even got fired. Right, and so I'm sure you know that the IG issued a followup to clarify that they didn't mean to imply that the money was missing, only that the documentation and contract files hadn't been adequately maintained, or were otherwise incomplete. In other words, the IG doesn't doubt the legitimacy of the expenses, but would prefer stricter documentation. Think itemized billable hours instead of bulk labor invoices - that's what they meant by 'cannot be accounted for'. Or, you know, if that doesn't fit your narrative, then I guess never mind. Considering that the entire annual budget of the State Department is 66 billion whats 10% among friends. Yeah, so the IG would prefer better records be kept on 10% of the budget. Pretty damning stuff there, absolutely riveting. It's more fun to pretend it went missing though, isn't it? Go ahead, I won't try to stop you. See, here's what's interesting about the criticisms being leveled on the candidates. On the one hand, you have a series of vague suggestions of mismanagement or wrongdoing, and on the other a pretty clear record of actual, demonstrated fraud and illegal activity. Yet, somehow, we're all acting like they are equally troubling. I realize it's not exactly on topic, nonetheless, it's truly fascinating.
  9. I bet you think that money is actually missing, don't you? That's adorable. I think the term the IG used was "cannot be accounted for". That's not so adorable. And no one even got fired. Right, and so I'm sure you know that the IG issued a followup to clarify that they didn't mean to imply that the money was missing, only that the documentation and contract files hadn't been adequately maintained, or were otherwise incomplete. In other words, the IG doesn't doubt the legitimacy of the expenses, but would prefer stricter documentation. Think itemized billable hours instead of bulk labor invoices - that's what they meant by 'cannot be accounted for'. Or, you know, if that doesn't fit your narrative, then I guess never mind.
  10. I bet you think that money is actually missing, don't you? That's adorable.
  11. All his attempts at marketing have been abysmal failures..but he has one and only one area where he is is nevertheless competent: Commercial real estate.His performance doesn't look much like competence even in that market. Forbes magazine had an article about this just today, looking specifically at his performance in the commercial real estate market (using the Financial Times NAREIT All Equity REIT's Index, which measures real estate investment trusts with a broad commercial portfolio and data tracking back to the 1970's). Here's how they graded his performance, beginning with the $200 million commercial real estate portfolio he took over from his father in 1976: "An investment of $200 million in 1976 in the FTSE NAREIT All Equity REIT's Index would have compounded to $23.2 billion by year-end 2015. That is considerably above Mr. Trump's recent self-reported net worth of approximately $10 billion. Mr. Trump has underperformed the real estate market by approximately $13.2 billion, or 57%" That's assuming that you even buy his self reported net worth of $10 billion. So you're saying that the index has gone up over a 100 fold in 40 years. The DJIA has only gone up 20 fold during the same time period. With that calculation a $60,000 investment in real estate in 1976 is worth over $6,000,000. The index is unmanaged and doesn't take into account taxes that must be paid along the way. Trump lived off of his investments for 40 years. Not a good comparison. I'm quoting Forbes magazine, you can take your criticism up with them. Having said that, it does seem like a reasonable Index to pick, given that his business is commercial real estate, and that's exactly what that index tracks. He would have done well living off of his investments for 40 years, or more precisely hiring a professional to manage it for him and then living off of it. There are articles about that too, but I'm sure you know that already. You seem really smart.
  12. All his attempts at marketing have been abysmal failures..but he has one and only one area where he is is nevertheless competent: Commercial real estate. His performance doesn't look much like competence even in that market. Forbes magazine had an article about this just today, looking specifically at his performance in the commercial real estate market (using the Financial Times NAREIT All Equity REIT's Index, which measures real estate investment trusts with a broad commercial portfolio and data tracking back to the 1970's). Here's how they graded his performance, beginning with the $200 million commercial real estate portfolio he took over from his father in 1976: "An investment of $200 million in 1976 in the FTSE NAREIT All Equity REIT's Index would have compounded to $23.2 billion by year-end 2015. That is considerably above Mr. Trump's recent self-reported net worth of approximately $10 billion. Mr. Trump has underperformed the real estate market by approximately $13.2 billion, or 57%" That's assuming that you even buy his self reported net worth of $10 billion.
  13. The thing about the NYT tax issue is that it makes every point about the Donald that Democrats have been saying for months, specifically; 1 - he's actually not that great at business, in fact, he's kind of shit at it 2 - he's a spoiled rich kid who lost his daddy's fortune and remained a spoiled rich kid by using bankruptcy laws to screw other people over 3 - he lacks the integrity to admit when he's wrong 4 - his failure to pay taxes means, if nothing else, that his criticism of other people who don't pay taxes (like the poor, for example) smacks of gross hypocrisy and finally 5 - that this is not the worst thing that he's hiding from the public
  14. It's an interesting thing, this Trump running for president while simultaneously refusing to disclose his tax documents. He is a private citizen today, and there is absolutely no law requiring him to release his tax records while he remains a private citizen. Can anyone here guess who IS required by law to release their tax records? Anyone? The President of the United States.
  15. Do I have this right...Are you saying that a president who is not beholden to his financiers is a bad thing? Who has assured us Trump is not beholden to anyone? Oh, right. Trump. And, we all know what his word is worth. I'm thinking that would be Gov. if I'm reading his post correctly. There seems almost universal criticism that our politicians are bought and paid for. Gov is the first person I can think of who appears to be expressing the view that bought and paid for politicians are desirable. Politicians who aren't bought and paid for are few and far between. Except maybe at the local level. Takes time to earn it. The point isn't that he's beholden to his contributors. The point is that he's a selfish prick, and he doesn't give a fuck what's good for anyone but himself. He's beholden above all else, and in every respect, to protecting his dangerously fragile ego. Speaking only for myself, that is a troubling characteristic for someone who wants to be the head of our military and diplomatic corps.