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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.

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  1. It's a perfect match, really. Bruce Farr boats are always fast and never win the cup.
  2. Kudos to Tom for stepping out there and trying to make something happen. Doubt seriously it turns into anything, but he's putting himself out there with an alternative.
  3. Ding ding ding, we have a winner! The best parts of Alinghi are wearing Oracle colors these days.
  4. The whole "sponsors are concerned we might get eliminated before getting to the main venue" thing seems vastly overblown. Teams have almost always been eliminated after the Rounds Robin, and sponsor exposure up to that point has always been underwhelming. The fact that the racing which will take the place of the Rounds Robin will now happen at a different location doesn't suddenly make it a less attractive prospect for a potential sponsor. It seems to me that holding that portion of the event at a different location, with the participant of the defender and cup match points on the line all make it much more interesting and might bring greater value to sponsors. Nothing has changed...if you suck and get eliminated early, your sponsors will not get their money's worth.
  5. Except Oracle fucked up big time plus plus with their original floppy penis design - they were 180 degrees offcourse in stupidity/ineptitude. So your supposition is weak.Interesting to hear that Larry threw 70 million at the boat by hiring hyper expertise in the last month to catch up. It was a close run thing - and yes, Oracle came out winner ... but did I say? - close run thing. Yes, the capsize was Oracle's fault. As were a number of decisions along the way that cost TNZ the cup.
  6. TNZ were very close to winning the cup, that's a fact. Here's a supposition that's hard to argue with as well: If OTUSA doesn't lose weeks of sailing time to the capsize, they reach form before the match starts and TNZ gets blown out of the water in humiliating fashion. Hypotheticals go both ways.
  7. TNZ also made two critical design choices that ultimately cost them: First, they went all in on stable foiling to the detriment of other aspects of their program (namely aero). The constant fiddling with beam fairings and pie warmers were desperate attempts to claw back some of the aero deficit they had relative to OTUSA. Second, they did not respond to the threat presented by Oracle's evident speed potential with their second boat. All of this speaks to the kind of mistakes that are made when you have someone dictating from above, where people engage in groupthink and are afraid to point out potential problems. The reaction to Oracle's package should have been "Jesus, if they ever get that thing stable it's going to be way faster than us." Rather than, "Foiling is our secret weapon, we discovered it and nobody can possibly catch us."
  8. Whether BB is the right guy is a worthy debate. But that Dalts isn't, in the same role he's been in since 2003, is pretty well established at this point. Grant's tough guy routine and authoritarian leadership style were just what the doctor ordered after the 2003 debacle, but it's not the right thing for the current situation. Authoritarian, top-down teams do not win the Cup in the modern era. It took Oracle two cycles to learn this and ditch Dicko.
  9. so in other words, you have nothing. put up or shut up? I have forgotten more about it than you ever knew, jackass. RC was promised he was actually getting control of the team but when he tried to bring in additional funding (Ernesto), he was told he could not. The trustees had an incredibly incestuous relationship with the "Family of Five" and were more interested in their business arrangements than what was best for TNZ. That's the short version.
  10. Your understanding of what happened in 2000 is incomplete and naive. Thank you for your kind and diplomatic response. However it is not my understanding - it is Tindall's. And he was the one who wrote out a cheque for $4m in 2000. He is not the type of guy who makes things up. If you know better - please explain. Why bother? You evidently think TNZ trustees from that time should have their word taken as gospel.
  11. Your understanding of what happened in 2000 is incomplete and naive.
  12. Perhaps. However, that isn't the America's Cup. It is as long as Oracle hold the cup.
  13. Rotating venues has always been part of the vision, as is commercial sustainability. Can't achieve either if venues negotiate with you as if they are the only choice.
  14. Newey expressed interest in AC design back in AC32. Doubt his participation will be meaningful, but it's certainly a heavyweight name that will help with credibility with sponsors.
  15. I don't think it's a tall order at all to expect AR to be faster at times...they're in a much more recent vintage boat. Whether they can get the most out of the boat is a different question.