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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

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  1. And here a descriptive picture of their new steering wheel. Interesting fact: Ben adjust 1200 + times the paddles during an average 20 minutes race.
  2. ETNZ sailing without losing their foiling status says a lot. It means they are able to maintain their speed without losing their manouvrability. This will be hard cookie to crack for any of the competitors. https://youtu.be/36kjt9KBTtM?t=662
  3. I guess you mean ETNZ. Looking forward to the first match between ETNZ and Artemis.
  4. Picture shown on Twitter: And some comments translated from french: Decoration by JB Epron? Apparently it's easy on black boats with a short brand name, impossible to miss.
  5. Hope the best men wins, This cup is the best and most competitive cup in years. Still think Ben has the best competitive cards in tactics.
  6. Communication with "ground controll" and being able to hear what the rest of the crew says is benificial. I am curious: this device that looks like a coffeecapsule is installed in the helmet of the crew against the temple bone? Guess it's complety hidden inside the helmet of the BAR racing crew.
  7. In the second week of unofficial races this is the score: Unofficial results (won-lost): Artemis Racing 9-0 Oracle Team USA 5-4 SoftBank Team Japan 2-5 Land Rover BAR 1-4 Groupama Team France 0-3 Two things stand out 1. ART 9-0 good showing 2. BAR, TF poor form Video of the winning Artemis team. (10 votes, 5% poll score)
  8. More news of the oncoming multi's for the 2020/21 VOR edition from the designer Guilaimme Verdier and his team. Guillaume Verdier weighs in on the monohull vs multihull debate – and the challenges of designing a boat for 'relentless' sailors April 12 07:49 Text by Jonno Turner Verdier and his team of designers will be working alongside a Volvo Ocean Race Advisory Board, featuring race veterans and team directors. Hi Guillaume! Tell us a little bit about the team you’re putting together to lead the design of the next generation Volvo Ocean Race boat... The group will be made up of my usual French team, plus some Kiwis. There’s around 16 of us in total, and we’re very used to working together. The thing that’s pretty unique about the way we work is that we’re rarely on site together. We’re also quite interchangeable in the way we work – we’re a group of specialists, but all of us are more or less capable of doing the full thing. How important is it to get the input of Volvo Ocean Race sailors in the design process? It’s super important, and we’re introducing some Volvo Ocean Race veterans into the design team really early on for that reason. You get a unique perspective from the sailors, as they explain to you all of their tricks, how they survive on board, and how they look to exploit the boat to the max. That’s important – after all, if you design a single-handed boat, for example, the way that it’s sailed is completely different to a fully-crewed boat. You have to make a judgement of the machine you design based on the capacity of the sailor to exploit it. How do you balance the battle between speed and safety? And how much do you take a sailor’s daily life on board into the design process? It’s important, for sure, and it will probably affect the width of the boat a little bit. We’ll make changes for ergonomic reasons to ensure that the sailors are – well, not comfortable – but at least surviving on board. For instance, the cockpit might be a little bit more protected than in previous generations. That little bit more shelter allows the sailors to maximise the potential of the boat. We will make extra effort to keep the crews safe, as Volvo Ocean Race sailors have a reputation for pushing really, really hard. They’re relentless. In single-handed sailing, there’s a tendency for the sailors to be a bit more careful about their boats, but in a Volvo Ocean Race team, I think they push it harder than ever, which makes it more prone to breakages. We may have to consider downgrading the performance factor slightly in order to retain a certain level of security, which is a key aspect to bear in mind especially when you’re racing in the Southern Ocean. I’ve got to check safety a bit more due to that. I’ll try to turn that into benefit, probably by making the boat stiffer, and I’ll try to transform the safety aspects into some interesting features. It’s about trying to see a ‘problem’ from another point of view. The next generation of boat is part of a series of major announcements on 18 May which will take the Volvo Ocean Race into the next, exciting phase of its history. Do you feel a pressure or responsibility on your shoulders? I feel pressure in that there is always huge risk in designing new boats. It’s a big challenge to design a machine that is extraordinary to sail but safe at the same time. It’s always a fine line, and at the end of the day, we always have pressure when we send someone to sea, racing around the world. But it’s a feeling that I’m used to. In the last Vendée Globe, I had 12 boats and you want to see everyone come back, so yes, in that way, there is pressure, and you feel it. The sailing world is desperate to know whether we’re going to see a monohull or multihull design in the next race. What are you considering right now? For sure, there are benefits to both designs. In Europe we have a lot of experience with offshore multihulls, and they’ve been proven to be durable. But there’s always a risk of capsizing, and the boats are always on the edge of safety, structure and performance, and that’s a big decision to make. But I must say, from a technical and design point of view, a multihull would be extremely interesting. We have the technology, but it’s never really been done yet in the way that we might do it. Do you think that the Volvo Ocean Race has a monohull identity? In a recent fan poll, the popular vote was overwhelmingly for a monohull… I don’t think so. I think actually that it doesn’t make that much difference – one hull, two hulls or three hulls, it doesn’t change the identity of the race. The object of the race is that a group of people race around the planet, fighting hard all the way. There are ups and downs – there are extreme periods and slow periods with no wind, and that’s the same in either a monohull or multihull. Whether the boat is a monohull or multi doesn’t change the identity of the Volvo Ocean Race for me, I think it’s all about the people that race it. How about foils? Are you considering adding these to the next generation boat? It’s a challenge because you’d have to explore the possibility of a foil that is capable of lifting you off the water, and to be able to sail with it over a long distance and many days and nights. It would also require a boat which is much stronger and stiffer. We know it’s doable, we know we have the technology, but it’s never really been done yet. The key with foil assistance in the Volvo Ocean Race is that we know that the sailors in this race would never retract them, whatever happens. Where the single-handed guys might slow down, they won’t – the Volvo Ocean Racers will never retract the foils. They’re much more relentless. But it’s an illusion to think that an offshore boat can foil all the time. If we do make foil assistance, it would need to be able to be safe, and it’s important that the sailors can disengage the foil. You have to make a boat that’s good enough that even if you break the foil, or in case of an impact, lose the foil, you can always get back home safe. When you have the foil on, you have to show that the foil doesn’t harm you when going through bad weather. That’s no different on either monohull or multihull. Persico Marine has been announced as the lead boatbuilder on the next generation of boats – have you worked with them before? Yes, I’ve worked with Persico twice before. Once was with Team New Zealand, and Persico Marine built the sister boat of the AC72, so that’s when I first met them. The second time was a boat that did the Vendée Globe called ‘No Way Back’, which is the sister boat of the eventual winner, ‘Banque Populaire’. That boat is one of the most beautiful constructions I’ve seen. I really appreciate the work that Persico do, and they’ve built some beautiful machines, so I have no doubt about their capabilities. Everything you need to know about Guillaume Verdier's design team: Guillaume Verdier – Coordination; Naval Architecture; Structure calculation; Hull; Appendages Nick Holroyd – Coordination; Naval Architecture; Class rule; Appendages Bobby Kleinschmidt – Appendafes VPP; Drawing; Naval Architecture Herve Penfornis – Deck Design; Systems; Onsite; Interface yard - Design; CAD Romaric Neyhousser – Naval Architecture; 3D Modelling; Sail Plan; Mechanical Systems Loren Pool – Mechanical Design Morgane Schlumberger – CAD; Structure; Weight Study; Stability Veronique Soule – CFD; VPP; Analyst; Drawing Giovanni Belgrano – Structure Calculation; Coordination Andy Kensington – Structure Calculation; FEA; Material Testing Adam Greenwood – 3D Modelling; CAD Martin Bivot – Structure Calculation; FEA Minkyo Seo – 3D Modelling; CAD Len Imas – CFD Hull and Appendages + Sails Romain Garo – CFD Hull and Appendages Source: VOR Site: http://www.volvooceanrace.com/en/news/9494_Meet-the-man-behind-the-next-generation-boat.html My guess is either it will be foiling monos like the Imocas only bigger or MOD 70 like trimarans. I can't get used to the idea that a big foiling trimaran at sea is safe.
  9. Coming in last, win first. From Scuttlebutt Europe: Have The Kiwis Mastered Anti-Gravity? Spying on other teams is as old a tradition as the America's Cup itself. But never has a surreptitious photograph so shocked the world of performance sailing as the one shown at right(see below). It appears to show the Team New Zealand ACC foiling... while standing completely still. The photo, circulated by an unnamed member of ORACLE, is visual confirmation of rumours swirling around Auckland docks and the physics department at the University of Woolamaloo. "Those cyclists in the hulls? A lovely little distraction, that. Kept the entire membership of SINS blathering away for weeks while the real breakthrough was right in front of their eyes" said Professor Bruce B. Bruce. "If nautical journalists in Auckland had held off on the gin until after lunch, just once, they might have noticed that the height of TNZ hulls above the water never varied once they rose from the surface... regardless of wind strength or direction. And that the hulls dropped right down even when the wind did not and sail trim did not alter. Hullspeed hasn't a bloody thing to do with these foils. Gravity waves and quantum entanglement are what's going on." Scuttlebutt Europe has independently confirmed sightings of the hulls rising and falling at the dock, in one instance when the rig wasn't even stepped on the hull. Swarms of dockhands staring into tablets and clutching clipboards are an unusual enough sight... more so when they're clad in lab coats and pocket protectors. "Don't look much like the usual BNs" muttered the ORACLE source. "We aren't going to need a lot of practice time in Bermuda" smirked syndicate head Grant Dalton. "We've got a few tricks up our sleeves and are confident that we'll leave with the Auld Mug in hand. We expect the usual squealing and whinging from our vanquished competitors. Looking forward to not giving a single flying feck".
  10. Ìs that the new line from nespresso? Like it already. Still Bar is going to win.
  11. Do not do it as fast as the following video:
  12. News from the frontpage and boat design.net VOR race management is considering a switch to multihulls in the next edition: (April 6, 2017) – While final preparations and team announcements continue for the Volvo Ocean Race 2017-18, the event’s leadership team are working in parallel to map out the race’s future. The edition after this one, the 14th, will be contested in brand new One Design racing yachts designed by France’s Guillaume Verdier and built under the direction of the Persico boatyard in Italy, race organisers announced today. Verdier has joined the Volvo Ocean Race Design Team and is currently working with the race on the crucial issue of whether the new boat will be a monohull or multihull. The final decision on the proposed designs will be announced on May 18 at an event in Gothenburg, the home of the race’s owners and title sponsors Volvo. Verdier is the ‘quiet’ achiever who has been involved in most of the leading designs right across the sport in recent years – from giant multihulls like Gitana’s Maxi Edmond de Rothschild, to be launched in July, through Team New Zealand’s current America’s Cup flying multihulls to maxi-monohulls like Comanche, and the leading Vendée Globe IMOCA 60 foiling projects such as Hugo Boss and Banque Populaire VIII. The monohull-multihull question is just one of a series of key decisions that will be finalised prior to the announcement. Together, the decisions will form the most radical shake-up of the Volvo Ocean Race since it began life in 1973 as the Whitbread Round the World Race. “Conceived in 2011, the current fleet of boats was built to be competitive for two editions,” said Volvo Ocean Race CEO Mark Turner. “We need to move now on the future boats to keep all our options open on boat type and design. “We’re excited to work with someone as talented as Guillaume Verdier – who will be a perfect complement to the wider Volvo Ocean Race Design Team, and the input we plan to have from a wider group of professional sailors and industry partners.” A Consortium approach was used for the initial build of the Volvo Ocean 65s, but Nick Bice, the race’s Chief Technical Development Officer, said the preference this time was to contract with a single builder. “Persico have been a strong partner over these past few years, and we are delighted to be working with them again.” The decision to continue with a One Design concept follows the introduction of the Volvo Ocean 65 monohull for the Volvo Ocean Race 2014-15, which produced the closest racing in the history of the event. The upcoming edition, starting on October 22 2017 in Alicante, will use the same Volvo Ocean 65 boats that have since undergone a one million euro per boat refit process in the race’s Boatyard facility in Lisbon. These boats were designed to be fast enough and reliable enough to complete at least two laps of the planet at the highest level of professional racing, in a fully competitive and equal state. The fleet of seven existing boats from 2014-15 will be supplemented by a brand new but still identical Volvo Ocean 65, commissioned by team AkzoNobel, for the 2017-18 race. With more than six months still to go before the start, four teams have so far been announced. The remaining teams will be revealed over the coming months. The race opted to go with Verdier after inviting input from half a dozen industry-leading yacht designers, including Farr Yacht Design, the team that kick-started the One Design era in the race by delivering the successful Volvo Ocean 65 project. Verdier’s goal will be to lead the Volvo Ocean Race Design Team to build a new fleet to the same exacting levels of matched One Design achieved with the current boats, but very much connected to the big evolutions in foiling technology the world of sailing is currently seeing. “We’re bringing together a wide-ranging depth of experience from events such as the America’s Cup, offshore multihulls and IMOCA Open 60 projects,” Verdier explained. “We are starting from a blank page, and whatever kind of boat we design, whether it’s monohull or multihull, we will learn a lot from this process of working together.” He continued: “I think sailors just want to have fun, and are attracted to a new way of sailing. In the Open 60, for example, we made something which was quite radical, but also very safe, and that’s key for the Volvo Ocean Race.” Marcello Persico said the company was delighted to be building the next generation of Volvo Ocean Race boats. “We’ve been working closely with the Volvo Ocean Race for the last eight years and we feel part of the family,” he said. “I believe that Persico Marine will deliver excellent support and service to the Volvo Ocean Race as it embarks on the next phase in its history.” Source: Volvo Ocean Race so I guess this new to be developed multi will be even faster then the MOD70? Which is fast. Great.. Looking forward to see that. Maybe even foiling multis!
  13. O my god The eye in the sky.... Isn't that long lost psychedelic shit like in the Alan Parson Project? Lyrics: I am the eye in the sky Looking at you I can read your mind I am the maker of rules Dealing with fools I can cheat you blind And the Lord of the rings? Eye of Sauron: Which is all british. And since there is some psychological warfare in this: Guess who's going to win this cup?
  14. That's the spirit of racing! Well said.
  15. New Vesta's boat looking very good. https://www.facebook.com/volvooceanrace/videos/10155264399487437/