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      Abbreviated rules   07/28/2017

      Underdawg did an excellent job of explaining the rules.  Here's the simplified version: Don't insinuate Pedo.  Warning and or timeout for a first offense.  PermaFlick for any subsequent offenses Don't out members.  See above for penalties.  Caveat:  if you have ever used your own real name or personal information here on the forums since, like, ever - it doesn't count and you are fair game. If you see spam posts, report it to the mods.  We do not hang out in every thread 24/7 If you see any of the above, report it to the mods by hitting the Report button in the offending post.   We do not take action for foul language, off-subject content, or abusive behavior unless it escalates to persistent stalking.  There may be times that we might warn someone or flick someone for something particularly egregious.  There is no standard, we will know it when we see it.  If you continually report things that do not fall into rules #1 or 2 above, you may very well get a timeout yourself for annoying the Mods with repeated whining.  Use your best judgement. Warnings, timeouts, suspensions and flicks are arbitrary and capricious.  Deal with it.  Welcome to anarchy.   If you are a newbie, there are unwritten rules to adhere to.  They will be explained to you soon enough.  


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  1. Always wanted to retire in Oz and now I know where to go. Thanks, LB. -Snap
  2. Santana 20/tuna 20

    What??!! Glenn passed away? Holy fuck that just ruined my night. I don't think I'd spoken to him in the last three years but last time he was doing OK and adding pizza franchises. FWIW, Flasher is a pretty damn good boat. -Snap
  3. Peterson 38 Dust 'Em

    There was a thread on Dust 'em here years ago showing pics of it being converted to a liveaboard with a ply house added. A real shame. I drove Doug's frac Flamboyant in Yachting Cup once and it was an upwind rocket. I'm pretty sure it was a wood boat. -Snap
  4. Santana 20

    considering hull #1 was built in 1976, I'd say you got a hell of a deal.
  5. 6 meter Worlds

    Typical sock puppet wanker. If you heard item #3 first hand then you would have had to have been a party to the protest... there was discussion about a rule 2 protest for misleading a protest committee. Care to comment on that?
  6. 6 meter Worlds

    No bias here, oh person from English Bay. The redress was rescinded based on the fact that the information given to the PC omitted some key details and the hearing was reopened due to new information. I went very easy on the club and its staff as well as the venue, which was terrible for a World Championship event. -Snap
  7. Holder 20 GPX (turbo)

    Nope. I'm tied up all September with 6 meter World's in Vancouver. Next year with a NW20 fleet sounds like a plan. -Snap
  8. Holder 20 GPX (turbo)

    Holder 20X Drone video- Mission Bay, CA Had the kid test out his new drone when we tested the new Main made by Ballard Sails out of Seattle. Very nice. -Snap
  9. CF27

    Don't forget to mention it was struck by lightning in New Orleans in the ad...
  10. New 6 metre. Much like a hippo.

    Assuming this puppy will be at World's this year... it will be interesting to see how it goes against the established moderns. I'll be there and will most likely be doing some reports. -Snap
  11. Is D.C.'s Schock 35 class legal?

    yep, and that boat ended up being named Wings. Basement to penthouse after the keel was put in the correct place
  12. Is D.C.'s Schock 35 class legal?

    Maxx - you know some of the story but clearly didn't see the boat up close. It was just painted with faired foils and had the masthead crane removed and no backstay. Still, a good story for the bar sea lawyers... -Snap I did see it in SD up and personal just when it was just launched.Even then I thought WTF? There's going to be a hurting or full on resurrection and I saw the Sailing piece too. It was to the point that he can do that under the rules. Yes, bar sea lawyers were having kittens I'm sure. I just thought it was the same thing. Wasn't him that said about "No stone unturned" or something? Or was it someone else like that? Still he does that. Get you use to it. I raced the boat for a while before DC picked it up. The hull and foils were painted in about two weeks before Yachting Cup so of course it looked nice then. The deck, interior, and luckily the velvet painting hanging down below were not touched. The boat was rode hard and put away wet in prior years so the hull started looked rough after a bit. Still, a fun and fast boat. The issues at yachting cup were the undeclared removal of the crane and pro driver (not DC). -Snap
  13. Is D.C.'s Schock 35 class legal?

    Maxx - you know some of the story but clearly didn't see the boat up close. It was just painted with faired foils and had the masthead crane removed and no backstay. Still, a good story for the bar sea lawyers... -Snap
  14. Holder 20 GPX (turbo)

    Eat your words, FullCircle! The 20X is coming along nicely and the asym is way more stable than a sym. Since I came up with the GP and X monikers, Rod, how bout you call it a 20T? See you at Spud Cup, Varan. We'll have a couple of 20X's there. -Snap
  15. What is it, PNW?

    I think 'new' is a bit of a stretch considering when this project got started. I'm amazed it even splashed and a lot of people got screwed over by FD on the way. -Snap
  16. Holder 20 Mainsail swap

    The actual OEM sweep is about 23 degrees and if you go out to the rail like I did it might be OK (maybe not for Hood River). I went with 27 and no backstay with the Viper spinnaker. Had it up in gust to 25 the other weekend and no problems. Yes, I'll post some pics at some point.
  17. Apparently I can't resurrect an old archived thread on this... this is probably the only question I can't answer between the two boats but is the Schock 35 keel in the same place as the Santana 35 and just deeper? The mast was moved aft for the Schock so does the mast butt now span keel bolts or did they change the cord length at hull? I'm having some evil thoughts and need some advice while I'm still on the ledge! -Snap
  18. NTSB releases transcript of El Faro sinking

    I couldn't agree more. The six hours the Captain was down in his cabin while things went completely pear shaped was also a big factor in the tragedy. Bottom line is they should have done the prudent thing and diverted or even turned back. A 40 year old Ro-Ro is not really a ship you want to go into those conditions. It's a chilling read and the CAPT's final words are haunting. -Snap
  19. NTSB releases transcript of El Faro sinking

    There wasn't much "fog of war" on board El Faro at 11am on sept 30.., when they received the weather forecast i have copied below. Conditions were quite good then. this is about 45 hours before the ship sank at 7:40am on Oct 1 I didn't realize that September had 31 days... actually only 8:30 before the ship sank.
  20. Peterson 1/4 Tonner Flying Circus

    I think a bit of both given the amount of work it would take to make it competitive again. Here's a Peterson 25 done right AND sailing on the Solent, Hitch...
  21. Peterson 1/4 Tonner Flying Circus

    No pics! Here you go. Looked at it a few years ago for possible Q Ton update and ship to the U.K with a Seattle based team. Sent the photos to Doug P and he said 'don't bother, even if it was free'. Cool boat but a real project.
  22. Venture 21 rig ideas / turbo

    I think mine is a 79, why do you say don't bother ? Because of the keel slot ? Probably need to add some clarification here. 1. I already have the boat, so that isn't changing. 2. I am extremely unlikely to modify the keel, mostly because the ease of use issue. I want to be able to trailer it easily and go to the beach easily, both of these matter more than performance. And I can't really be fucked......... 3. I may have been slightly misleading with the turbo phrase, what I really would like to do is modernise the rig with a non overlapping headsail, and Asym and better deck layout for ease of use. Racing here is generally low level with not enough and inexperienced crew, if I can't get a crew or just want to go for and hours sail I want to be able to single hand easily. I would also consider daysailing with my wife and toddler singlehanding with passengers. 4. Before I got the boat some assclown decided to remove every fitting, the sails are shit as is the running rigging. Point being that changing the deck layout, and modernising the sail plan isn't a ton more work or money than going with the standard setup, so I might as well. A '79 model will be heavier than an early boat If you want any type of performance you'll need to address the gaping keel trunk issue. The other V21 in AZ filled it in and keeps the keel down, which takes away from some of your criteria. That boat was pretty damn fast and if you bothered to do a search here you'd find another whole thread on this somewhere (not sure which forum) Based on your budgetary constraints just either set it up stock and sail with the jib and alum asym prod. Putting a Viper rig on it makes no sense given the increased weight (over an earlier model) and trunk The early V21's are pretty damn fast boats when set up right, even in stock config (just ask anyone who remembers racing against The Blue Light Special in AZ or Mar-V-Les in the Hot Rum Series in San Diego) Good luck and have fun with it. -Snap
  23. Venture 21 rig ideas / turbo

    I seem to recall that it has been done before, possibly in AZ. No details though Yes in AZ but the owner is in Spain for a while and that project is on indefinite hold. If your boat is not one of the early ones don't bother. -Snap
  24. Wall Street Duck

    I think I recall WSD in a Lipton Cup way back, not special ..same year as Impact? that was long ago, could have messed up. I think that was why it was in SD. Fit in the rating band. My guess is all the lead was removed for PHRF trim at WIRW...