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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.

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  1. Just a reminder that the deadline for HPDO registration without incurring the $40 late fee is September 1. Looking forward to seeing Big Dave & others. By my count we could easily have eight boats on the line. Who is in: Steve Willy Dave Bill Big George Eli El Crapitano Big Dave Robbie
  2. Steve, Thanks for helping put this to bed. I stand corrected. John
  3. The hull complies with 5 b (5 b is part of the rules section titled Hull). In the transom area nowhere did I alter the the line of greatest beam of the hull from how Chris built it. The breach in the hull that the crudder slides into is not "greatest beam" so the concave and convex requirements are not applicable. FYI, I did modify the line of greatest beam at the radii where the 45 degree lines from the stern transition forward. The modification was to increase the radii slightly to ensure compliance with the 60mm convex radius rule. The third coat of primer went on last night. Being a rookie, painting seems to involve more sanding than painting and maybe more sweating too as the boat has been moved from the cool basement into the hot garage. One more sanding session and the topcoat goes on. Made the tiller extension yesterday, so no more doo dad parts to make, outside of a suitable roof rack setup. El Crapitano, The concern that I have with Rule 5b is the last sentence that defines the shape of the ends of the hull. On the attached sketch, the top illustration shows the intent of the rule, and the bottom illustration shows where there may be a problem. Feel free to give me a call Best John John, this concerns will also apply to any Chris Maas hull which have the slot for the rudder cassette opened to the end of hull. The only difference to El Craps crudder i see is that Chris rudder cassettes are not extending the hull when they are fixed in the slot. And as far as i know all Chris Maas boats did measure without problems... Roger Roger, The difference between El Crapitano's boat and other boats designed & built by Chris Maas and others with a tilt up rudder is that El Crapitano is defining the cassette as “Rudder Hardware or a Rudder Fitting” that is allowed to extend beyond the hull so that he remains within the hull length limit. In the case of other boats with the rudder cassette in an open slot at the stern, the rudder cassette is measured as part of the hull, and is within the 5200 mm length limit. The historically the cassette has been accepted as an extension of the hull. I understand the exclusion that allows rudder fittings and hardware to extend beyond the 5200 mm length limit, but if the cassette is not part of the hull for the purposes of measuring length, it cannot be part of the hull for the purposes of defining the shape of the ends of the boat. John
  4. rule 5b_20120807070434.pdf The hull complies with 5 b (5 b is part of the rules section titled Hull). In the transom area nowhere did I alter the the line of greatest beam of the hull from how Chris built it. The breach in the hull that the crudder slides into is not "greatest beam" so the concave and convex requirements are not applicable. FYI, I did modify the line of greatest beam at the radii where the 45 degree lines from the stern transition forward. The modification was to increase the radii slightly to ensure compliance with the 60mm convex radius rule. The third coat of primer went on last night. Being a rookie, painting seems to involve more sanding than painting and maybe more sweating too as the boat has been moved from the cool basement into the hot garage. One more sanding session and the topcoat goes on. Made the tiller extension yesterday, so no more doo dad parts to make, outside of a suitable roof rack setup. El Crapitano, The concern that I have with Rule 5b is the last sentence that defines the shape of the ends of the hull. On the attached sketch, the top illustration shows the intent of the rule, and the bottom illustration shows where there may be a problem. Feel free to give me a call Best John
  5. El Crap, Now that a have had a chance to see what you are talking about; If the rudder & associated "Fittings / Hardware" are not part of the hull so as to comply with the maximum length, do you comply with rule 5 b that define the shape of the ends of the hull? From the class rules: 5 b The projection on to a horizontal plane of the line of greatest beam shall be a continuous curve, and at bow and stern shall lie inside lines which are at 45º to the center-line and which pass through the center line not more than 25mm beyond the extremities. Best JK
  6. I am trying to encourage El Crapitano to launch his new ride in the crystal clear waters of the St. Lawrence.... Even if he has to finish it after he arrives. I promised the support of the island natives is getting his boat finished. JK
  7. Sigh.... Oh all the cool shit Steve Clark has to play with !!! WOWzers, that is one sexy looking shell. Well done. Wrong Steve Clark: This one is from across the pond & uses an extra E on the last name.
  8. Ouch!
  9. Steve, It looks good. Let me know if you want to take her for a test sail! JK
  10. Phill Kinder builds 7.8 Main - 2.2 Jib with square head main. Tony Arends builds 8.0 Main - 2.0 jib sets with larger square head PM me for contact information. John K
  11. ATG, NICE WORK! I was going to post a photo of the composite gooseneck that replaced the original cast aluminum mast mount on Mayhem, but your example is much better. JK
  12. H, That is a bad day. The earlier damage reports were understated. Good to hear you are OK. JK
  13. $8-$10K USD Carbon foam construction with dolly, mast sails. A plywood boat would be about $2K less Cost includes process materials that never end up in the boat. A HUGE amount of fun per Dollar or Euro Regards John
  14. The US IC Fleet will once again be attending the Sarasota Sailing Squadron One Design Mid Winters this coming March 19th-21st. The roll call looks like: Steve on Wonk Will on Kaito Dave on Alice Oliver on Uncle Walter Bill on Lust Puppet George on Mr. Boat Hudson on Sock Puppet Don on PITA Lee on Prospector John on Mayhem The usual suspects will be joined by Don and Lee who are relatively new to the class & Hudson who is taking delivery of Sock Puppet at the event. No form guide, just the anticipation of some great sailing in warm water! Best John K.
  15. Sounds like the US are getting serious to win back the New York Cup... I better learn how to sail again and keep things pionted in the the right direction i.e. mast in air . Great news to hear Erich is coming back to the class this will make the next Worlds even more interesting thats for sure. Chris, Does this mean that the shop on Rock Island has received a few orders in 2010? Having Erich come back is great news! Erich drives an IC harder than anyone I know (with one possible exception...), and is not afraid of the consequences. Build it strong! Regards John Sounds like the US are getting serious to win back the New York Cup... I better learn how to sail again and keep things pionted in the the right direction i.e. mast in air . Great news to hear Erich is coming back to the class this will make the next Worlds even more interesting thats for sure.