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  1. on a 400 nm mile delivery last week down the qld coast we saw 9 multihulls and 1 monohull. I know that there are way more monos sold every year but we always see many more multis out there being used.
  2. Just to clarify some comments,Wild Oats and Blackjack guys are always polite on and off the course and they often chatted to us about our boat. They always try and go under slower boats which does not slow them down much and avoids getting luffed up. Hammo is actually cheaper than airlie when entry fee and marina fees are combined. You can always leave your boat on the pick at Airlie and tender in and out. I have done it and it is really no hassle. Very different regattas, much better courses at Hammo, better prize giving, bands at Airlie. (just my opinion)
  3. Rushour had his and lows during the northern campaign but it was a fantastic experience and both the crew and boat improved alot over the 2 weeks. Still have a long way to go but still very satisfying. Another 12 months should see much more improvement. Top speed during racing was 28.7kn. Nothing broke. Boat is very stiff. Thanks Nathan. Shame more boats did not compete but we were lucky Top Gun Rushour XL2 Stardust and the Diams were reasonably close speed wise so we had some close racing. We kept ripping our upwind screecher which we needed for any upwind work in under 15 kn (All but 4 races) which cost us 3 races. In another windward leeward, a kite wrap cost us a race. (We came second by 2 minutes) It does show that if you sail a good race it is possible to win on OMR even on a cruiser competing against race boats. The Diam was impressive, simple to sail and fast. (also wet and rough) In the video above Wild Oats actually sat on our stern for approx 5 nm before we got into the wind shadow of some islands (note kite collapse). We hit a top speed of 28.5kn on that down wind run. Top gun were still a few hundred metres in front of us though. Black Jack never passed us.
  4. perfect opportunity for black jack to tune their boat. Even if they are faster I would not be surprised if they just sit on WO all day learning, learning
  5. Mighty Merloe has more sail area than the 70s so she was always going to be quick in light air. Impressive how much faster they are than the monos though, nearly 3 times the speed of commanche, obviously perfect angles for them.
  6. does that mean that there will be 2 races going north the same week? Surely not!!!! I could understand 2 races using the same start line and a waypoint/finish at coffs but not 2 races.
  7. I know nothing about Alibi cats but carefully analysing what you really want is important. Many production catamarans boast fantastic performance that in real life may be disappointing. One of the great things about a high performance catamaran is the satisfaction of sailing fast in low wind speeds. Many production cats do not achieve this. Many boats can do 20kn in a gale but that is not always enjoyable stress free sailing. Doing 20 kn in 15 kn of wind is very enjoyable. I would recommend sailing on many varied boats such as schionning G force 15 (MOJO FOR SALE IN AUS). A turboed gunboat, fuijin (beaker design) etc. Get any boat weighed before it is purchased. Claimed weights are not always correct. There are very few production catamarans that are raced successfully.
  8. Timberwolf rating is much faster than Dragon. Nz has a pretty good rating system.
  9. The whole point is the boat is sailing pretty much dead level in the video. she looks like she is nose down because of the deck shape. The water stay is about 300mm above water level but they still hit the tops of waves which is creating the spray. That video was taken sailing across Morton bay which is quite a rough piece of water. Adding a leeward foil in this situation would not make the boat go any faster, it would simply rotate the boat to windward and the windward hull would depress more into the water causing drag. (They would work brilliantly if you can sail the boat like a F18). I think the foils would work very well on say a 12m boat that is high powered(eg omr over 1) but I am not sure anymore how effective they will be on a 50' boat (and I have already built the cases in) Probably best come for a sail one day. They need to exit through the bottom of the hull.
  10. Also you need a very high powered sail plan to get the boat to lean on the foils. (ie you need to be comfortable flying a hull continuously). Foils can only be turned in, they will not work curved out, something to do with pressure dumping causing drag. The foils will work more effectively on a 12m boat. I had them on a 7m tri and the Tfoils on the rudders made more difference than the curved foils but together they made the boat very fast.
  11. This system will work. I have just launched a 15m cat with the foil cases built in but have not yet installed the foils. The main benefit of the lifting foil is increased buoyancy and reduced pitching so that the boat behaves like a 60' boat instead of 50' which is obviously quicker in certain conditions. However I am surprised at how smooth my boat sails anyway so I am not sure as to how much benefit the lifting foils would have in normal sailing conditions. I never planned to use the foils upwind in conjunction with the daggerboards but they will certainly give more speed reaching and running but perhaps adding another 5' would be just as effective and less trouble. Modern 50' cats are surprisingly fast, i suspect the lifting foils may give about 3 kn extra on a good reach which would push speed to around 28kn but how fast does one need to go!! There is a guy in Townsville that is building a 50' cat super light that would be worth tracking down if you are serious. Link to video of Rushour sailing. We had 11 people on board and were sitting on between 20 and 22 kn in this clip. Wind was around 15kn. This stretch of water would have been quite rough in the old 40' boat. Link: https://youtu.be/xeJ8tH1OXN4
  12. What am I missing? Jon Sayer designs some awesome boats and I am pretty sure Wasabi would beat a class 40 to Osaka. The Osaka race is pretty light wind most of the way. Plus she is a full carbon build.
  13. Big thank you to all the people involved in running the event. We were very disappointed to have to pull out, but I think that we learnt a lot from the experience and will be a better team in the future. At least Rushour was starting to hit her straps as we tuned her up when we got past the fairway buoy. Congratulations to everyone who competed in the race and of course the winners.
  14. i believe they should be sanded to an equivalent smoothness of 360 sandpaper ie smooth. Any more is a waste of time. Something to do with 1 layer of water particles on hull.
  15. Still too early to get an accurate forecast but I am excited at the moment 15 to 20kn south east would be nearly perfect, maybe a little more east!!!! Now all we have to do is bolt a few more bits on, get all the construction tools off the boat, fill the fridge with beer and go. I think the start will be different this year, a beat to Fishery beacon, then back through the start line then off. Good for the crowd, just hope there are no crashes.