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  1. curious, Will you be going with a aluminium mast? I can not help thinking aluminium is a better option on a cruiser racer multi hull. Proven, durable, better insurance, minimal performance loss etc
  2. Need Chartplotter Recommendation

    I have a Zues 3 and a 6 year old Garmin on the same boat. Garmin is still 10 times better in usability, accuracy etc etc
  3. Melbourne Osaka 2018

    Runaway is way less comfortable than any other boat in the fleet so not only are the boys on board doing well they are doing it tough. They have the mental toughness to finish though.
  4. Brisbane to Gladstone 2018 only

    Regarding the rudder shafts The last boat had hollow shafts with no problems but this is a vastly different beast. Talking to others having a hollow shaft with solid section through the exit point still failed. The first rudder on the existing boat had this and it bent, solid shafts in 2205 never fail. I will machine the top hollow and taper the bottom to reduce weight. I am sure you are correct regarding larger diam hollow vs solid but then I would have to rebuild the whole rudder structure. Helm is a cable system and never loads up so I do not think balance is an issue.
  5. Brisbane to Gladstone 2018 only

    Well another incomplete B to G !!! more lessons learnt .... do not use carbon rudder shafts on big cats. We now think that the shock load of big swells hitting them broke them down one fibre at a time. They were a solid shaft with a fiberglass core and carbon layup on the outside. (70% uni 30% off axis carbon filament wound) Deflection of these shafts was 0. They do point load where they exit the hull and that was probably the cause. Solid stainless 2205 shafts next time. We sailed a very good race up till both rudders left the boat. Not sure when we lost the first one but the second one was obvious. We sailed a very good race up till that time. We cleared the bay in a good position, rolled out the mast head screecher and sailed fast for a couple of hours. It was rough with TWA around 120 and a big beam swell. Our top 10 minute average was 21.4. We were taking alot of water over the boat though as we were punching into the seas every now and then. Luckily when we were well in the lead we were able to back right off and 2 sailed it with a reefed main all the way up and around Fraser. Minimal water splashed up in this configuration. We did catch up to the 2 tp 52s around Mooloolaba (they started about half an hour earlier) but we were not racing them and we paced them . Ichy Ban was about half a mile in front around the top of Fraser. Our crew did a great job, conditions were rough and we nursed the boat but the boat handled it beautifully. We had no scary moments(except for not being able to steer)Top speed of 29kn top wind speed 30.5kn Our trip average till the rudder broke was 16.5kn. Wind speed was 10kn at the start building to 14 as we left the bay. At Caloundra we had 20kn and it never dropped under that again. Indian Chief sailed a fantastic race given the conditions. They nursed the boat and used good seamanship. Next year.
  6. Brisbane to Gladstone 2018 only

    Looks like a windy race, 25kn around the top of Fraser against a 2 kn current will be wild in the middle of the night. Anyone's race this year. Lower rated big boats such as Avalanche and plan B could easily out sail their rating. We have a chance of line honors if Boss and Indian Chief has to back off too much if the breeze really kicks in. It will also be interesting to see which monos we can beat. Will be fun.
  7. The BtoG is coming around again. We are looking forward to it immensely, the first day is the highlight of our sailing year. Rushour is now getting there and will be good to go by race day. There are some new boats entered which is great to see. Entry list will be published shortly.
  8. Brisbane to Gladstone 2018

    You are missing the point. We obviously were not going to run over them. And yes we did our penalty turn just in case.
  9. Brisbane to Gladstone 2018

    Well I guess some of this post should be refuted by someone. The first part of the post is absolutely correct. The Diam had absolute right to make us tack away on the line. We did assume incorrectly that the Diam would be interested in finishing ASAP (as per the bottom paragraph, which is why we left 25m of line for them to tack through. (see photo which shows Rushour 150m from the line starting to luff up to give the Diam plenty of room) I have no issue with what you did it was just .... annoying to have to tack with a screecher. What did not happen as was claimed in the bar by the Diam crew was that they had to avoid getting run over by us. (see attached photo taken by tele photo lens from the finish boat which clearly shows Rushour on starboard with the Diam still reaching down on us screaming. The diam is obliged to keep clear in this situation.) The second part of the post above I have issues with since you brought it up. I believe that when you missed the mark another boat sailed over and informed you that you missed the mark. You told them to go away.(in a not very polite way) You then protested them for outside assistance because they called up the race committee on vhf to question which side of a mark to round, (perfectly legal and the protest was later thrown out in the jury room) You did not retire from the race. When another competitor heard that you protested Fantasia they protested you for missing the mark which also went to the room, you lost and you then retired from the race and did not race the next day. This was a social regatta put together to promote and encourage multihull sailing. The above mentioned behavior is disappointing and if I was the owner of the Diam I would be very disappointed. He puts a lot of effort and money into supporting multihull regattas around the country.
  10. Brisbane to Gladstone 2018

    Boats that I know of: Rushour Boss Racing Avalanche cut loose big bird storm bay Fantasia Attitude No Problem Hasta La Vista about 4 more who I can not think of.
  11. Brisbane to Gladstone 2018

    That is a shame
  12. Brisbane to Gladstone 2018

    It was a great weekend. Light wind obviously does not suit a 50' cat sailing against lightweight racers but we were happy. Friday we had rig tune issues and new kite needs to soak more so our vmg was off. Sorted it Saturday morning and nailed the windward leeward race coming second. (No boat would beat the Formula 40 in those conditions and she is flying with new sails) Afternoon passage race was short tacking in shore against current which was not good for us and the little boats kept up. Then a little Diam 24 sailed half way up the finish line to make us crash tack but Karma got them back the next day. Sunday passage was downwind vmg for 20 miles in 8 to 12 kn. We were racing XL2 and Dirty Deeds which gave us the opportunity to figure the best VMG for the new kite. They got away around an island but we ran them down across the bay which was pleasing as the conditions were perfect for them. We then parked up with no wind for an hour or so, next to them. Anchored, swam, drank beer and watched the rest of the fleet sail up to us. Still plenty of work to do but really good progress. And our starts are shit, I can not bring myself to drive a tennis court aggressively on the start line.
  13. Brisbane to Gladstone 2018

    http://results.rqys.com.au/2018MBMR/series.htm Results If someone could attach them. Wind was around 10 kn all regatta. All divisions sailed the same race for race 1 and 3 I think. Great weekend that I hope will grow.
  14. Sydney To Hobart 2018

    4 is an old boat that did the transpac this year. Maybe ex waterworld. We did use the hatch, used it to get back in the boat to get wallets and phones.
  15. Sydney To Hobart 2018

    Correct the CYCA have no interest in letting multis do the race, and if they did not many would turn up and put up with all the dogmatic safety routine that all competitors are subject to. (and I do not think that it is a safety issue, they do after-all let TP52"s do the race which would have to be one of the most un-seaworthy craft ever to take to the open ocean.) If there was enough interest I am sure another club would step up such as is the case for Brisbane to Gladstone. Even the Brisbane to Noumea race looks like no takers in either mono or multi but the club running it requires VHF radio, HF radio, Satphone wired in, AIS, and a tracker. There are four 60 -70' tris around aus nz now though so you never know.