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    The VX Evo

    I raced Lasers for 12 years, did two WC’s in the 80’s (Kingston and Gulfport) and almost won the 1994 Masters NAC (tiebreaker for 1st). I have a lot of love for the boat and the class (was D14 chairman for 4 years). What frustrates me is the hull design and foil design are timeless yet the boat has never really been updated as in carbon spars, a better sail design/construction, and better laminate construction. It could have been done in planned phases without killing the class. Sorry, but it’s ridiculous what you now get at the price they charge for a new boat and you have to have new boat sales to sustain the class. I think being an Olympic class has a lot to do with sustaining the class’s future. At the level I raced the boat, the decks and cockpit laminate always started to come apart after two years of racing the circuit. I bought 4 boats to stay competitive in that time period. YMMV. With all due consideration, if I was in the market for a new singlehanded dinghy, the EVO, RS Aero, and M-14 would certainly get first look over the Laser.
  2. Hey Wess, Thanks for the feedback. I am in line with a lot of your comments. I think the 970 is really the way we want to go due to the better headroom design which is huge for cruising. On your comment about the shower/head, I would assume that might be because the stock 970 does not have hot water (?). I know hot water heaters are available but have to evaluate how practical/reliable they can be. We also would probably try to cruise with the "dry ice in the icebox" approach assuming we can find dry ice in the locations we want to take the boat. Refrigerators for a boat like this would be limited in size and another item to maintain. We do want to keep the boat as simple as possible and know that includes compromises. I think the approach to a boat like this safety wise is that as soon as the breeze builds to over 15 knots, put the first reef in and that takes a lot of the power out of the rig that can get you in trouble but still allows you to sail at double digit speeds. The 970 also has the benefit of high volume floats. We do want spray protection sailing offshore so a dodger will be in the program. A bit concerned about security sailing in the aft seats in big seas and big wind. Thanks again! Bob
  3. Hi MH Anarchists, My wife and I are seriously in the market for a Cruze 970 to be used primarily for coastal cruising and potentially longer trips that may take us across the Gulf of Mexico towards the Carribean or perhaps Mexico. We are looking for real and practical feedback on cruising the 31 or even better the Cruze 970 but understand there is not a lot of data on the 970 even though we like its spec's over the 31. If we were in the market for a used 31, we'd be looking for the aft cabin US model. Appreciate any feedback and you can send PM if you like. Thanks! Bob Hodges - Covington, LA
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    The VX Evo

    About $18k for a complete boat with nearly all the bells and whistles. It’s a good value when you compare it to a fully kitted Laser that has a limited competitive life and is low tech compared to this boat. Rod, what about marketing the boat as the ideal guy/girl, girl/girl, adult/kid, or in general small person doublehanded where I would think it could be fun if the combined crew weight stays less than around 280lbs max? Good luck. We need more boats like the Evo and the Weta to bring apparent wind sailing to the masses.
  5. I stayed up and watched nearly all of this racing and loved it but time and technology move on and I enjoyed the action of San Francisco and Bermuda a lot more. Sorry mate, I disagree.
  6. You know, as a dinghy racer that became a multihull racer back in the early 90's, I'm really thankful that Larry Ellison had the balls and money to bring multihull racing technology into the America's Cup and we saw a run of three AC events in a row with spectacular boats and racing. Especially given that we saw probably the most exciting America's Cup ever played out in San Francisco on foiling 72' cats with a comeback that will be legendary in all sport. The naysayers were put to bed when these spectacular sailing machines began foiling through tacks and the helmsman and tacticians on the boats had to make split second decisions with position changes that could happen in seconds. While I was disappointed that the finals in Bermuda was so lopsided because TNZ did such a magnificent job with their technological advantage, the challenger series was amazing to watch. So I just want to puke when for the upcoming AC event the defender, challenger of record, and most recently the only American challenger all use language that they are returning the America's Cup to it's "proper roots". What they are trying to do is to create a monohull that can equal the amazing performance of the AC50's which were incredible sailing machines. Good luck but you know the bar has been set. I find all Terry Hutchinson, Phil Lotz, Grant Dalton, Hap Fauth, Luna Rossa, and others are doing with their statements is alienating a cross section of the sailing community. Guys, I get it that you like the AC in monohulls and again I'm thankful that we saw three AC events in technology I can really relate to but your comments come across as arrogant, ignorant, and a poor attempt at putting down the spectacular AC events we got to witness over the last decade. Given that, I'll probably be rooting for Sir Ben and his team on Ineos. They are hot and heavy campaigning a foiling GC32 catamaran which I think is going to better prepare them for the AC 75' foiling monohull than the other teams that are out sailing TP52's!
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    "Sailing is Hell" on 7/5 FP

    Whoa! on the closing comments. I can only conclude Scott must really hate a lot of people in this country.
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    WetaFest-Alter Cup Begins This Week

    The opening day of the 2018 US SAILING Multihull Championship hosted by the Fort Walton Yacht Club was blessed by the champagne sailing conditions of a 10-16 knots seabreeze on Choctawhatchee Bay. There were 41 competitors (33 singlehanded, 4 doublehanded) racing 14’ Weta trimarans with four races completed. Racing was tight amongst the top five at the end of the day with only a 7 point spread between the first and fifth place boats. Mike Krantz from Flowery Branch, GA is in the lead with 4 points. He is followed by Dave Bernsten (San Francisco), Randy Smyth (Fort Walton Beach), and Bob Hodges (Covington, LA) with 7, 8, and 9 points respectively. Jonathan Weston (San Francisco) rounds out the top 5 with 11 points. The forecast for Friday’s racing looks challenging. A cold front has passed the area and light northeast to east winds are forecast for most of the day so the light air specialists in the fleet are looking forward to challenging the front runners. A stronger easterly gradient is forecast for Saturday and that is forecast to veer to a stronger southeast gradient with rain on Sunday, the final day of racing.
  9. The 2018 US Sailing Multihull Championship (aka the Alter Cup) begins this coming Wednesday with racing scheduled for Thursday through Sunday. The event is being held in Weta trimarans and the host is the Fort Walton Yacht Club in Fort Walton Beach, FL. This event is being held concurrently with the annual Weta class spring Wetafest regatta. Nearly 40 boats are pre-registered. At last count, 5 boats are racing double-handed which the Weta class rules allow for championships. On Wednesday, Randy Smyth will be conducting a Weta racing clinic to kick off the event. Fort Walton Yacht Club is one of the best places to race a sailboat especially in the spring and the forecast this week is spectacular with light winds forecast for the first two days of sailing with breeze picking up on the weekend so the event should be a good test of racing the Weta in a range of conditions. I’ll post daily updates here starting on Thursday evening. Bob Hodges Weta 1003
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    Super Foilers

    And you are exactly right. I spent the first 1/3rd of my sailing life sailing and racing Finns, Lasers, Lightning’s, Snipes, Thistles, and the occasional PHRF race but my passion was small boat one design. The high performance bug bit when I got into windsurfing and racing sailboards (plus it did not hurt that about 1/3rd of the sailboard fleet was hard bodied females!). What impressed me the most about racing a sailboard was that for the most part you just went faster as the wind picked up almost in a linear manner on all points of sail while racing a dinghy you never really went faster upwind after about 10 knots of wind and very limited downwind on how much the peformance increased as the breeze picked up. This meant the boats got less fun to sail and just loaded up more. I experienced the same (as what I observed with sailboards) when I started racing catamarans (Prindle 19 followed by Tornado to A-cat to foiling A-Cat now). When you get into racing boats that go this fast, at first you are consumed with the mechanics and keeping the boat on its feet. But once you get comfortable, the same tactical mind applies with the exceptions that you have to have a bigger view of what is going to trend during a race leg and really looking ahead in crossing situations and mark roundings. I believe this kind of perspective is the reason you hardly ever see any protests in multihull racing because the sailors are thinking way ahead and the consequences of a collision are more severe. So every time I hear that fast high performance sailing is just drag racing to laylines, I know it is usually from someone with little to no experience racing a true high performance sailboat. In the Superfoiler discussion, I also think what a lot of critics have missed is that this concept was brought to market pretty fast and it looks like the sailors are getting more experienced at taming the boat at every event. I think the racing has been quite exciting to watch. I’ll be 60 this year and look forward to another decade of racing an A-Class. It’s discouraging how many sailors I experience in their 40’s and 50’s who won’t give a high performance class a try because they have convinced themselves they are too “old”. This mindset seems much more prevalent in the US.
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    Super Foilers

    By watching the actual race replays, they get it right +90% of the time and the thrill/spill aspect of the racing and the boats is what makes it attractive to the non-sailing public. If your opinion of high performance sailing whether in multihulls, skiffs, or soon to be 75’ long AC foiling monhullers is a non-tactical, nothing more than a drag race to the next “pitch pole” kind of race, then it’s reasonable to assume you have no experience with this type of sailboat racing. Embrace diversity, limit uniformity.
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    Super Foilers

    Related to the FP and the “retarded” comment, the European and Australian/New Zealand sailing communities embrace high performance sailing WAY MORE than the US sailing community. I think the US sailing community is to a significant degree scared of high performance sailing so how do humans react to something they are scared of? They bash it and try to de-legitimize it. It’s no wonder the US is no longer competitive at the Olympics and has pretty much disappeared from the high end offshore sailing circuits.
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    Randy Smyth Rescued

    Glad he is OK. Always pushing the boundaries, I admire him.
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    what's wrong with this picture

    C’mon guys, it’s a PHRF race!
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    Best moment of the AC35 trophy presentation.......

    It's a competition between yacht clubs in name only. I don't disagree that it would be symbolic for the first thing to have happened would have been to have the GGYC commodore present it to the RNZYC commodore but I still think it was very appropriate for Glenn to be the first to speak on behalf of the entire team.