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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.
    • B.J. Porter

      Moderation Team Change   06/16/2017

      After fifteen years of volunteer moderation at SA, I will no longer be part of the moderation team. The decision to step aside is mine, and has been some time in the works but we did not wish to announce it in advance for a number of reasons. It's been fun, but I need my time back for other purposes now. The Underdawg admin account will not be monitored until further notice, as I will be relinquishing control of it along with my administrative privileges. Zapata will continue on as a moderator, and any concerns or issues can be directed to that account or to the Editor until further notice. Anyone interested in helping moderate the forums should reach out to Scot by sending a PM to the Editor account. Please note that I am not leaving the community, I am merely stepping aside from Admin responsibilities and privileges on the site.


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  1. There's a rules advisory where the Race director can determine that the penalised team has done enough to pay the penalty if the other boat deliberately acts to impede the resolution attempt.
  2. Isn't the penalty to "lose 2 boat lengths"? Seems to be inequitable if a boat is 400-metres behind and the leading boat has to drop back behind it, losing more than the penalty-mandated 2 boat lengths.
  3. Kiwis will remember forever Ashby's loyalty to ETNZ after the clusterfuck of being cheated out of AC34. He could so easily have packed up for a bigger pay-cheque from one of the teams chasing his autograph at a time when ETNZ was taking on serious water. But he braved it out with Dalton and mapped out a plan which has seen them where they are today. He deserves all the kudos that come his way, which I and you hope reflect well in his sail business...
  4. Glen Ashby is all class - on and off the water. He would easily be more revered and appreciated throughout NZ than across the Tasman.
  5. Revolutionary drone operator has Team NZ flying high in Bermuda RICARDO PINTO/ ACEA 2017 Team New Zealand's speed and power is captured from the sky. A ground-breaking drone and its American operator has helped Team New Zealand fly into the America's Cup final. Team New Zealand skipper Glenn Ashby recruited Wisconsin's Nick Bowers as the syndicate's performance analyst on the back of his revolutionary work with the flying cameras. As Emirates Team New Zealand surge deeper into the Cup final against defenders Oracle Team USA – the Kiwis hold a 3-0 lead and need four more wins to lift the Auld Mug – more revelations seep out about the ground-breaking technology they are using beyond their radical cycling grinders and remote wing control system. The New York Times reported that Bowers has developed a drone that is capable of accelerating from 0-96 km/h in one second. That enables his lens to keep pace with the foiling 50-foot catamarans that approach that top-end speed and has proven a problem for stock-standard drones. READ MORE: * How low will Oracle go? * What Team NZ must do from here * What the next America's Cup holds * America's Cup: Faster than a speeding ... RICARDO PINTO/ ACEA 2017 Team New Zealand helmsman Peter Burling heads across the Team New Zealand boat's trampoline. Bowers has also developed a technique to fly his drones at angles others haven't mastered, even getting below the level of the hulls that lift out of the water. America's Cup teams use onboard cameras to sync with telemetric data coming off the multiple sensors that cover these boats. Bowers' drone work, done from the Team Newe Zealand chase boat, has added another dimension in terms of synchronising the crew's work to the catamaran's performance. Bowers, who made his name filming smaller foiling catamarans, said he needed to make adjustments to cope with the demands of yachting's biggest arena. "I wanted to film one of these America's Cup boats sailing upwind, but nothing commercially available could do that," he told The New York Times. "It wasn't like I woke up one day and said, 'I want to build drones.' It was done out of necessity." The Kiwis snared Bowers from under the nose of defenders Oracle with his ground-breaking work known to the United States Olympic sailing programme. Leandro Spina, the development director of that programme, said: "He can fly in conditions other people cannot. When it gets pretty windy, Nick will fly. Other people will be like, 'No, it's too windy.' But he has no limitation with drones." Bower said his breakthrough technique came out of necessity. Initially he filmed without a monitor because he couldn't afford one. He instead watched the drone rather than a video feed, discovering it gave him better control and footage, especially when running the drone right alongside the catamaran. He also replaced the traditional wide-angle lens with one that had a more direct focus. "Basically, I wanted to trick people into thinking I was flying a big camera," he said. Bowers and his young family moved to Auckland for the development phase of the Team New Zealand boat. Sadly Bowers isn't in Bermuda to witness what will hopefully be the crowning glory of his work because of Bermuda's strict drones laws. Drones were banned from flying above the regatta course on the Great Sound and other areas in Bermuda from May 22 to June 30 But the innovator hasn't stood still. The New York Times reported he and his family, which now includes a son born in Auckland, have headed back to Wisconsin, where he is trying to start his own company, Bear UAV, using a 3-D carbon fibre printer to stamp out new drones. - Stuff
  6. Even Sir Russell is resigned to the result of AC35... Oracle bosses Sir Russell Coutts and Larry Ellison lament 'one-sided' America's Cup match REUTERS Sir Russell Coutts senses Oracle's grip on the America's Cup is loosening. America's Cup boss and Oracle supremo Sir Russell Coutts has conceded Team New Zealand "have the better package" and is disappointed at the one-sided final in Bermuda. With Emirates Team New Zealand leading the defenders 3-0 in the race to seven wins, Coutts offered some honest thoughs ahead of the resumption of racing on Sunday on the Great Sound. "We have seen so many exciting races in the Challenger Playoffs, it is unfortunate that this is not the case in the finals," Coutts said in an interview with German magazine Yacht who are in Bermuda with a German team having been involved in the Youth America's Cup. Coutts said his boss, Oracle billionaire Larry Ellison, shared a similar view after watching Team New Zealand's commanding winning margins. READ MORE: * How low will Oracle go? * What Team NZ must do from here * What the next America's Cup holds * America's Cup: Faster than a speeding ... "Of course he would have liked to see his team more successful. But I think he was most disappointed that we did not see better, more exciting races last weekend. We all hoped for a good fight. We hope now that Oracle has made some good changes in the preparation. So far it's been rather one-sided." MIKE SEGAR/REUTERS The America's Cup match in Bermuda hasn't made great viewing for Oracle boss Larry Ellison (third from left). Coutts, who helped mastermind Oracle's miracle comeback against Team New Zealand in San Francisco four years ago, didn't seem so optimistic of a repeat performance on Bermuda's Great Sound. "The guys are working hard on it but it is different than four years ago," Coutts said. "At that time I was convinced that Oracle had the better package. They only had to learn to use it optimally and to sail optimally. This time, the Kiwis clearly have the better package. RICARDO PINTO/ ACEA 2017 Emirates Team New Zealand have simply been too fast for Oracle Team USA. "It is now about improving the Oracle package as much as possible. But it is a very steep mountain which they have to climb." The more restrictive rules for this 35th America's Cup will hamper Oracle but Coutts felt there was still some wriggle-room for Jimmy Spithill and his crew. "I think you can improve a lot, so you make changes. Whether that is enough, we must see." Coutts, the most successful skipper in America's Cup history having won at the helm of Team New Zealand and Alinghi (Switzerland) boats and overseen two Oracle victories, believed if the Cup returned to Auckland, the Kiwis would "do a good job as organiser". He seemed consigned that a Team New Zealand victory would mean changes to the format he has engineered over the last two editions in foiling catamarans and incorporating a world series. But producing a product that transferred into "a good TV broadcast will be in their interests". He felt the AC50 catamaran still had development in it to make it a better boat and he would like to see it operate better in high and low wind spectrums. http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/other-sports/93995085/oracle-bosses-sir-russell-coutts-and-larry-ellison-lament-onesided-americas-cup-match
  7. A picture worth a million words...
  8. Good luck convincing one of them to back your second defender...
  9. Golden Gate Yacht Club holds the AC and makes the call on their defender. As it was, they had to fight off a potential defender in court in AC34.. The point is that NZ does not have the money for another defender. Pointing to the likes of Graham Hart, Todd family etc is like hoping to win Lotto.
  10. In over 20 years involvement in the America's Cup, Fay Richwhite have been the only Kiwis with the foresight and wherewithal to fund the original TNZ for a couple of challenges. It's a pretty safe assumption that no one else in the country can afford a second challenger - unless you know different.
  11. Anyone in Christchurch willing to bankroll a second defender? Mate you're fucking dreaming - NZ can barely afford one AC team: in fact, we couldn't afford ETNZ, they had to go looking for sponsors to bankroll them because the government was too sensitive to politics.
  12. There is not enough $$$ in NZ for another defender to challenge ETNZ. If Ellison with his billion$ couldn't hold a defender series, what makes anyone think NZ can?
  13. I wonder how much ETNZ's wing weighs in measurement condition with all those multiple hydraulic cylinders inside the wing? Just as well the Class Rules only specify a minimum weight of 445 kgs.
  14. Mate, don't let spinbot bother you...he's just a little depressed at the moment. Enjoy the trip - and the drinking !!