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      Abbreviated rules   07/28/2017

      Underdawg did an excellent job of explaining the rules.  Here's the simplified version: Don't insinuate Pedo.  Warning and or timeout for a first offense.  PermaFlick for any subsequent offenses Don't out members.  See above for penalties.  Caveat:  if you have ever used your own real name or personal information here on the forums since, like, ever - it doesn't count and you are fair game. If you see spam posts, report it to the mods.  We do not hang out in every thread 24/7 If you see any of the above, report it to the mods by hitting the Report button in the offending post.   We do not take action for foul language, off-subject content, or abusive behavior unless it escalates to persistent stalking.  There may be times that we might warn someone or flick someone for something particularly egregious.  There is no standard, we will know it when we see it.  If you continually report things that do not fall into rules #1 or 2 above, you may very well get a timeout yourself for annoying the Mods with repeated whining.  Use your best judgement. Warnings, timeouts, suspensions and flicks are arbitrary and capricious.  Deal with it.  Welcome to anarchy.   If you are a newbie, there are unwritten rules to adhere to.  They will be explained to you soon enough.  


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  1. Brand new and totally ignorant

    I googled Clipper Marine 21 because I wanted to see what they looked like prior to the pilothouse mod and came across a blog by a woman doing a restoration of one (https://christinedalton.wordpress.com). It looks like the chainplates originally followed the contours of the hull then bent inward to get up through the deck : There's another picture somewhere there of the chainplates from the inside and you can see the bend. Yours appear to have become straightened out, causing the edge of the deck to push out and crack, and making the hole much bigger than it should be. I think I'd pull the chainplates and get them into the correct shape, or make new ones, prior to repairing the deck.
  2. J80 project boat

  3. J80 project boat

    There is one on Martha's Vineyard listed at $16k. It's on Yachtworld. From the description it sounds like it took a hard grounding and was repaired.