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    duluth, mn
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    Sailing, boatbuilding, design, more than one hull.

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  1. Spirit-33' s&s

    Most folks would not recognize Spirit as a well travelled ocean racer. I remember visiting her and crew with my brother before the start of the Sydney Hobart race in what had to be the late 1960s, maybe early 70s. She had just arrived from San Francisco having competed in the Tahiti race from California which she may have won but im not sure of that. She was crewed by George Kiskadon jr, Ron Holland and I think Doug Peterson. Not sure if there were other crew but she is a tiny boat. Ron had sailed with my brother from NZ to AUS in the early 60s. I dont remember how she did in the Hobart or if she went home on her own bottom (I believe the Kiskadons owned a shipping line) but a pretty impressive campaign for a little flush decked racer, kinda like doing it in a Tarten 10. Steve.
  2. beach cats in the ocean?

    Why not?, a P cat sailing as an unofficial entry was 1st to finish the n2e in 1960.
  3. acrylic window expansion

    Thanks for the info BJ, I will be doing my windows in a couple of weeks and have purchased 1/2" 4991 2.3mm vhb tape and Dow 795 silicone . I will be doing it pretty much exactly as you did except just one run of the tape around the openings and out to the ends. My windows are 1/4" cast acrylic and are surface mounted ( no rabbet) with a 1 1/2" land so 1" of the 795. I don't think anyone has answered the op's question adequately yet and I don't have the answer either as I havn't researched the expansion yet but I had better get on it. my windows total about 13 ft in length and I have been planning on one expansion joint but I could easily do two as I have five 4" wide pillars to join on. Steve
  4. acrylic window expansion

    Would you mind sharing what you used for paint for the acrylic. What width and thickness vhb?
  5. Vendee Globe 2016?

    We hit a container off the Coast of Mexico in 1979, 2nd Leg Guadalupe Island Race, going 8 knots to weather at nigh, int heavy seas in a 55 footer. What saved the boat, is that the construction was that the boat was strip planked balsa 3" x 3", edge glued and aluminum nails (so no problem when fairing, before glassing). The outer glass (3/8 inch thick 24 oz roving and mat) was impacted with a corner of the container about 8" x 6", with deep indent into core. There was torn glass about 20" x 30"--with some delamination of about 5' long and 3' high. The inside glass was delaminated for an area of about 3' high x 6' long. There was no water intrusion into the boat--we did not realize that we had hit anything until the next day. The noise and slamming into the seas apparently obscured the time of impact. The area was repaired and the boat made 3 circumnavigations later. I have a couple of hundred thousand miles open ocean racing and cruising--and never saw another container--Have tangled into floating nets, various plastic pieces at night. I did hit a tuna net float (Styrofoam, with cables around it) in a different boat. The cable slid down the side of the keel, and snagged the prop, the 35 ton vessel was spun 180 degrees. We believe it damaged an engine mount, and there was an impression of the cable on the boss of the prop, when I dove on it the next morning. No damage to the blades of the 24" diameter fixed blade prop. If you didn't realize you hit something until the next day then obviously you didn't actually see anything so it seems you are just guessing it was a container, may have been just about anything really. Any type of direct hit of a partially submerged container would probably do a lot more damage at 8 knots wouldn't you think? but a glancing blow maybe. Are there many container ships plying the southern ocean? Not many if any I would think but plenty of whales for sure.
  6. White island race in New Zealand

    What design is Marshall Law?
  7. Capsized 57' Catamaran rescued

    oops, that was supposed to be in reference to the large clam cleat sheet release gizmo.
  8. Capsized 57' Catamaran rescued

    I have a pair of the large ones that I picked up at a marine consignment store in Florida years ago. Have not used them yet but who knows.
  9. Capsized 57' Catamaran rescued

    REW, any plans to do the Trans Superior next year? would love to se a machine like that do the race. Steve.
  10. A gemini is narrow enough to pull out with any travelift and narrow enough to, with a suitable trailer, haul over the road if needed with a 3/4 ton pickup or larger. Yes you will need over width permits but this is no big deal. It would be no fun hauling long distance but doable unlike nearly any other bridgedeck cat but if all you wanted to do is haul it a short distance to store in your driveway, again not a big deal. They are not well built but good enough for a lot of folks and they do have a very comfortable layout for what you seem to need. I would go for a 3200 rather than the 3400 to be guaranteed an outboard rather than the disasterous inboard setup which most 3400s and I think all 105s have and also the transom hung rudders. Those are the only major differences between the 3200 and 3400 that I'm aware of and I think the 3200 would also be cheaper to buy. Bridgedeck clearance on the various geminis was highest on the 3000 and got progresivly worse with each subsequent model. It is only about 4" real clearance ( measured from the scum line) on a Hunter built 2012 model at the marina where I work which is very poor imho. Steve.
  11. What Paint for Interior Lazarettes?

    You take a solvent soaked rag and let it sit on the painted surface for a while, if its 1 part it will soften it, if its 2 part it won't. That said, some 1 parts are very hard after many years in the sun and wont soften.
  12. Multihull Newport to Ensenada race.

    I'm thinking that the conditions in 1983 must have been pretty near as good because only 8 boats this year out of 140 were able to match the pace of the 1st and 2nd boats to finish that year, both multies of course. The 60 ft cat Double Bullet with an elapsed time of 10.5172 hrs closely followed by the little Macgregor 36 cat Kristine just 8 minutes behind at 10.6522 hrs . Up until a week ago only one monohull had managed to beat that time by less than 2 minutes. Plenty of multies had beaten those times of course but not monos. Hell, even the little Viva 27, Tyger Tyger finished in 11.2214 hrs, only a few minutes slower than Wahoo this year.
  13. T-10 Good Buy or Should I Pass?

    I used to own a T10 briefly, sold it to a friend and then raced on it for a couple of seasona. As has already been mentioned they all had wet bottoms, they got wet from the inside, very porous glass layup and no gelcoat in the bilge on ours. The good news for someone with skills is that polyester / e glass and balsa are very cheap so a job that would cost many thousands for a pro repair will only cost hundreds for materials if you can do your own work.
  14. Realistically, very few cruising boats have watertight compartments, most designers don't assume that the keel will fall off and with a steel boat with a ballasted keel it is not very practical. Very sad story, condolences to family and friends.
  15. best 32-35 foot cruising cat

    There are a couple of older Fountain Pajot cats in that size range which would be worth a look.