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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.


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  1. Hey Spike, how did you receive it? Nothing yet at our side of the pond AFAIK... Was it a check? It was a check; from Stubbs&Perdue. I would make sure they have your proper mailing address on file
  2. Our long national nightmare is over: 11.8 cents on the dollar received. I guess that's better than what the Hall creditors got.
  3. Indeed. You might say they Dominated....
  4. You went to Hall for a bowsprit?
  5. You may be right, but where in that press release does it say that....?
  6. That's humor, right? I would argue that those owners are the unhappiest GB owners because they DID get their boats. Who cares if the factory is still standing?
  7. It appears most of those claims were bought out by Outremer
  8. It looks like Eduardo is getting his G4....rightfully so.
  9. I think the name is worth a lot personally. Any new product will be met with a lot of excitement. Gb always had lines around the docks at boat shows. Everywhere I go people ask "is that a Gunboat?" We had a whole village in BC come down to check out the boat, to the point the dock master had to close public access to the docks. Flip through a copy of Multihull Magazine. Everyone and their mother has a concept design for a cat. My wild ass guess was the brand was worth $2m. I think they got a deal. But the true cost is over $2MM depending on how they deal with the debt they acquired, no? Like the half finished boats they now own (I think)... I gather you assume they can be sold for a profit eventually? No argument from me; I was assuming otherwise. Anyway; its all academic. Will never know what the true cost is or how they valued goodwill. The numbers just surprised me is all. Wish them the best regardless. true cost depends on how many cents they actually paid per nominal dollar of debt the bought, I guess ... That's right. I doubt they paid the full claim value. Outremer get a discount. Past customers get to walk away with...something
  10. If this was any kind of kerfed core, then I will bet that the water would have spread throughout the boat. Its infused. Those kerfs, for better or worse, are full of resin.
  11. To me, it looks like something hanging off the remnants of the traveler. It appears to overlay the graphics of the name.
  12. Pretty nice hull for a fit out - beats building from scratch. Agreed. This thing will sail again, well at least it will move again. Its not an old hull filled of rotten balsa. Its a prepreg autoclaved hull. Im sure something can be made of it. Neither pre-preg nor autoclaved.....but you were close.
  13. Those were gone at the first sighting, many months ago. Was there a Rib attached to them at some point?
  14. I had brought up this 90 day prior payment schedule in a previous post, and wondered about the aging on those payables; some seemed odd (Vectorworks). My guess is that clawbacks are uncommon.