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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.
    • B.J. Porter

      Moderation Team Change   06/16/2017

      After fifteen years of volunteer moderation at SA, I will no longer be part of the moderation team. The decision to step aside is mine, and has been some time in the works but we did not wish to announce it in advance for a number of reasons. It's been fun, but I need my time back for other purposes now. The Underdawg admin account will not be monitored until further notice, as I will be relinquishing control of it along with my administrative privileges. Zapata will continue on as a moderator, and any concerns or issues can be directed to that account or to the Editor until further notice. Anyone interested in helping moderate the forums should reach out to Scot by sending a PM to the Editor account. Please note that I am not leaving the community, I am merely stepping aside from Admin responsibilities and privileges on the site.


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  1. Thanks for the continued comments. A local knowledgeable source thought it could be a Ballenger from some photos I sent, but wasn't sure and it doesn't look like other Ballengers I've seen photos of, but I read that they changed hulls several times. It appears to have molded in "cutouts" on either side of the mast partners (the white in the photo) that were subsequently filled in with what looks like professionally done fiberglass inserts. I still haven't been able to find the hull number on the hull, but the sails have 4087 on them, so I'll go with that for now. This would make it about a 1970 Vintage. This think was literally found in the woods where it had been parked for manyyears on a friend's property. As you would imagine, it needed a lot of cleaning, and of course all of the lines and hiking straps replaced, but otherwise would be ready to sail given a workable centerboard. We have no illusions about it ever being competitive, just looking for some relatively high performance fun.
  2. Thanks for the responses - I've looked for a Hull Number or other identifying mark and can't find anything. How can I determine the make and vintage?
  3. My 14 year old son acquired an old 505, maybe 1976(?), that is in serviceable condition except the centerboard is really bad. We were looking at trying to rebuild it but there is deep dry rot where the fittings screw in the top, so we're considering abandoning that project and looking for a used (cheap) alternative. This boat would not be worth buying a new one! We are in Portland, OR. Thanks for reading. Eric
  4. Ah, of course much better to go around the wall. Newport to Cabo would be an interesting race, but judging by this years entry list everyone would be finished and delivered back home before a lowly boat like ours finished. Why don't more small, slow boats do this? Plenty do Pacific Cup and at half the distance, and probably half the expense, it seems like more would be interested.
  5. Easier to just sail back to San Diego and haul out there. It's a just a day trip back to SD. Agreed -- I would sail back to the US and then load up on for the tow home.
  6. Thanks Ian - that does looks interesting, hope it has some legs. That's really only 445 miles? I wonder how challenging (logistically) it is to tow an oversized load from Ensenada to the border? I assume we'd need a running start to get over the wall. While we may be interested in short handing sailing, as Roleur points out it's not terribly practical for a 3 person partnership.
  7. Thanks for the continued input - all good. Boat is a well travelled J/105 with lots of ocean miles including Pacific Cup and more.. We do have a truck and trailer so the deliveries aren't as bad as they could be! The reference to an earlier delivery down the coast was with different boat.
  8. Ian - SF to Ensenada sounds interesting. I don't see any info on a quick google search, is this a real thing? Can you steer me to a website? I could see putting together a BBS, then converting to offshore mode and heading south.
  9. For wives that are fair weather sailors, and decidedly not ocean racers, warm destinations are a nice "sell" to combine our sailing adventures with vacations. For them, shore crew around Van Isle is not an appealing way to spend the entire vacation for the year. The sailors among us would like to do Van Isle when time is a less of a premium. Jammer - the point I was trying to make is that we are only familiar with the more well publicized races. Spinnaker Cup and Coastal Cup look like good options, thanks for those. Port Townsend to SF would be cool, unless it was like the delivery we did in 2006 that was 2 days of glassed off motoring conditions and three days of miserable beating until just before the GG Bridge.
  10. Thanks for the replies so far. What Mexico races besides Newport Ensenada are still going? Roleur - would love to do coastal cup and Pacific Cup, but not quite at that place on life! The idea is to spend a little less time and money than jumping off the Pacific Cup cliff again (yet). Thanks for the replies so far. What Mexico races besides Newport Ensenada are still going? Roleur - would love to do coastal cup and Pacific Cup, but not quite at that place on life! The idea is to spend a little less time and money than jumping off the Pacific Cup cliff again (yet).
  11. Being from the Pacific Northwest, I am familiar with some of the California, or California-Mexico, coastal races but by no means all of them. Is there a master list? We are planning ahead for 2018 and considering one or more of those, instead of another Pacific Cup. Thank you - Eric
  12. We'll be transporting our empty J/105 trailer with mast rack North from Portland to Seattle on Thursday and continuing to Anacortes on Friday if anyone needs a mast or other unwieldy object transported. J/105 Free Bowl of Soup
  13. Sounds like you want a RIB, or a whaler, or something like that! I'm a huge sailing fan, but powerboats have their place too.
  14. We are an out of town J/105 registered for Round the County. As long as we're going to the trouble to travel up there, we are exploring the feasibility of doing PSSC and Grand Prix. We've been able to sublet space in Shilshole before, but I'm not seeing that option on their website. Any ideas?
  15. I am also interested in this topic. There is a local boat that claimed to have some success flying their staysail off of a sprit very light air in an Oregon Offshore a few years ago. We have a staysail and have wanted to try this, but weren't sure if was permitted. I'm not sure if there is really any value in this, but when it's that light we are often bored and willing/wanting to try anything...