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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.


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  1. Hey Lion - thanks for the suggestion - emailed Fastbottoms - He quickly replied that he had found Trinidad and Micron 66 to both work pretty well in SF Bay.
  2. I sail out of Redwood City in the Southern portion of San Francisco Bay. In the past my experience with Pettit Trinidad (maybe SR - not sure) on a 25 foot boat was good. The bottom stayed relatively clean and slime free enough for club level racing for a few months after painting and for about 2 years more with monthly bottom cleaning. About 2 1/2 years ago, on a 30 foot boat, I had the bottom re-painted with Pettit Trinidad Pro. Unfortunately we were delayed in relaunching after painting it about 4 weeks. Right from the get go slime would build up on the bottom within a week of cleaning it. I thought maybe this was due to the delay in launching. A couple different divers checked the paint for me and all said that this was pretty normal and that the paint was doing an excellent job of keeping hard growth off (the boat was in South Beach Harbor in San Francisco for the first 1 1/2 years). I am just about to do another haul-out and re-paint and I am not sure if Trinidad is the paint to use. Down here in Redwood City the boats on either side of me have both had new bottoms within the last 6 weeks with Trinidad Pro - and they both have slime build up already. I also noticed the majority of boats in South Beach Harbor tended to start to grow slime shortly after returning from haul-outs with various new paint. I have read that Pettit had to change the slime reduction chemicals in Trinidad due to it no longer being available. Is there a better paint that will resist slime buildup for at least a few months? Thanks, Later
  3. Checkout the El Toro Class web age: http://www.eltoroyra.org
  4. My almost 30 year old size-10 Navtec Series 7 Integral Adjuster will no longer hold a load. It was rebuilt last year in March at Svendsen's Marine. It was rebuilt 9 years before that. It costs over $300 for the rebuild. I am thinking that it might be time to just bite the bullet and purchase a new one. The current Navtec and Harken units are longer length and would require shortening of the backstay. Sailtec has a unit that would fit right in with no modifications required. The travel of the Navtec was more than sufficient for my boat. So is the Sailtec a good unit? Are the Harken or newer Navtec better (and therefore I should go ahead and shorten my backstay)? Or is the old unit really just as good (maybe better) and I should have it rebuilt again? Opinions? Thanks, Later
  5. Pacific Boats (Santa Cruz) built Olson 911s for sale: http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listing/pl_boat_detail.jsp?&units=Feet&id=3043833〈=en&slim=broker&&hosturl=sailcal&&ywo=sailcal&
  6. Checkout this post from Allen of L36.com fame on this earlier Rope Anarchy post: (http://forums.sailinganarchy.com/index.php?showtopic=172837&hl=tenex#entry5271282): White Tenex is an inexpensive and strong line. Similar to Salsa (12 strand single braid) but 1/5 the cost. It is polyester. Same strength but a little more stretch. But for a hand held line, it isn't going to stretch anyway. Don't buy anything except white as the color comes off on your hands. http://www.lfsmarine...ester-rope.html Allen
  7. Kenny - thanks for the input - that is actually what I thought might be the case
  8. us7070 - shorthanded with the #1 and therefore limited visibility is the situation. Wondered if the focus range etc. of these cameras might work Also finding a video screen you can see in outside light would also be a concern. DrewR - mirror is another idea - have you really tried it?
  9. Has anybody tried using a car after market backup camera system for keeping a lookout for boats to leeward? Thanks, Later
  10. I donated a couple of sails through Seabag this last year. They paid for shipping and in lieu of sending a bag to me donated to the SailMaine nonprofit program.
  11. Check with: https://agents.farmers.com/ca/burlingame/chris-boome He has raced sailboats his whole life and makes sure policies he writes covers what you need.
  12. Raz'r and Alan, In the 60's there used to be a fleet of FF's sailing out of the old Palo Alto YC in the far South end of San Francisco bay. I believe they even were sailing with trapezes - influenced by the 505 fleet. The harbor in Palo Alto was closed many years ago.
  13. I believe that Sailnetics built Fireballs in Alameda (near Oakland, California) in the late 60's and into the early 80's. That one appears to be a composite model (fiberglass hull (balsa core) and wood deck). They built all fiberglass boats also. They really promoted the boat in the bay area - offering many sail a 'ball events through the years. That boat may have belong to Bob Kesselring from Aspen. He definitely sailed a green Sailnetics composite. He was very active in the class in the 70's.
  14. Alex, Glad to hear you had success with Svensens. A couple of years ago I needed new stanchions for my Olson 911s. Buzz Ballinger told me that Olson obtained their stanchions from Railmakers in Costa Mesa (949)642-6506. They were able to supply new ones for me. I thought that maybe Express used them also.
  15. 505 - Long Beach - contact Howard Hamlin - howard@hamlingooding.com