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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.

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  1. This was definitely an issue for BAR, they were too keen to get the best British designers, engineers etc. rather than getting the best in the world. Maybe they needed to do that to push the nationlistic aspect in order to raise funding, but it was a stupid approach. As for the F1 guys, definitely valuable in terms of design and engineering process, this is where companies like McClaren are outstanding. But possibly not much they could contribute directly to the design of the boat.
  2. I think you'll find that quite a few people have exited other teams due to the change to smaller boats, but it hasn't happened with the same sort of fanfare that ETNZ generates. Apparently Jason Ker is no longer with BAR, but that hardly raised a mention, and I've heard of departures on other teams as well. I think ETNZ is actually doing the right thing, stripping down to the bare bones and rebuilding around a younger core group. A few people might get pissed off along the way, but I don't see it as the disaster that Dana seems to imagine.
  3. How many crew are you allowing for? My mistake, I was thinking of the AC62 crew size. Not many spaces on the 48 for indians when you consider how many chiefs they've got. Looking at the ETNZ web page for Team is pretty sobering though, once Saward, Lomas, and Macfarlane get taken off there will be only 4 photos on it. And that's 2 years from the next Cup.
  4. Honestly, ETNZ is better off without Nick Holroyd, he was responsible for some monumental design failures that he has never been brought to account for. How he kept his untouchable position in the team up until now is beyond me. And as for the grinders, how many does ETNZ need? They already have to fit Burling, Tuke, Ashby and Davies on the boat. And of course Dalts will insist on sailing, so that only leaves 3 spots. I suspect that they have figured out that the loads on the boats are going to be lower and that the grinders will need to be slimmer, fitter and more agile to suit a smaller boat and more dynamic racing, so the big guys of the past are being put out to pasture.
  5. Damn, looks like we'll need to switch to plan B...
  6. Grumpy may have his flaws, but in a scrap like this he is the best bloke for the job and the best person to raise funds.
  7. Don't underestimate Kiwis when their backs are to the wall!
  8. No, it's time to win the Cup back and set it straight. It will be close to a one design class and ETNZ should have no problem being competitive. Suck it up and win it back.
  9. Realistically, they will have their best chance ever. They will have equal wings, hulls and platforms, meaning all the focus is on foils, control systems and sailing skills. ETNZ did as good a job as Oracle on the foils last time, with Burling and Ashby they have the two of best (if not the two best) foiling cat sailors available, and the control systems will be sorted with a bit of no.8 wire, so they will have a very good chance of knocking off Oracle. Actually the area of control theory and systems is the big one, Oracle has both access to the U.S. aerospace industry for componentry as well as having an in-house control theory expert, Tom Speer. Control theory is an area that AC teams have glossed over in the past because they don't know how little they know about it. If they don't have it already, TNZ needs someone with serious expertise in this area. Great second paragraph, but doesn't it contradict your assertion? And OR's also got Guppy Youngren this time around I don't know what expertise TNZ has in this area, they may have a really good understanding of the problem and be on top of it, or they may be taking the classic NZ "we can do anything with pure grit and determination" attitude. Dalts has said they are taking a more scientific attitude this time around, but unfortunately I think his idea of a scientific attitude is along the lines of "I've got some smart guys, they can figure it out" rather than seeking out an expert in the field. Control theory for foiling cats is a complex subject and not much has been published on it, although Peter Heppel did a good paper at the HPYD conference in Auckland last month, not sure if its online.
  10. Realistically, they will have their best chance ever. They will have equal wings, hulls and platforms, meaning all the focus is on foils, control systems and sailing skills. ETNZ did as good a job as Oracle on the foils last time, with Burling and Ashby they have the two of best (if not the two best) foiling cat sailors available, and the control systems will be sorted with a bit of no.8 wire, so they will have a very good chance of knocking off Oracle. Actually the area of control theory and systems is the big one, Oracle has both access to the U.S. aerospace industry for componentry as well as having an in-house control theory expert, Tom Speer. Control theory is an area that AC teams have glossed over in the past because they don't know how little they know about it. If they don't have it already, TNZ needs someone with serious expertise in this area.
  11. No, it's not what we all want. We want an America's Cup, one challenger, one defender, every 3-4 years. Fuck you, Ainslie
  12. No, better for TNZ to keep going and win this thing to get it away from Larry and Russell.
  13. Yes, it would be funny if they only allow one 48 footer per team which you cant launch it until 5 months before the Cup, but you can still build a couple of 45 footers to practice in. Good for cost savings.
  14. Agreed, qualifiers are a silly idea and we all agreed on that. Grumpy realised that if qualifiers were inevitable, they might as well be in Auckland, as that gave him a home waters advantage, lower costs and less time lost to shipping for ETNZ. Plus government financial support - a win-win situation all round. But that doesn't mean that qualifiers aren't a stupid idea, and it's nice to see that Russell has finally worked out what was obvious to everyone else from day 1.
  15. I'm fully in favour of this proposal as it is the best way for another team to win the thing away from Larry. Even better if it's a billionaire prepared to turn the AC back into a no-holds-barred spectacle.