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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.


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  1. Yes it was.... I've been offline for a few days and was thinking this through. I believe this hydraulic fluid can be put to very good use if required. Those cyclists are going to seriously hurt of my assumptions are correct
  2. That's certainly an interesting viewpoint, but it looks to me that the history of any Australian team in the AC over the past few decades is hardly a stellar one. They even conspired to have to withdraw after being a COR. success indeed.
  3. Are you guys fucking crazy? You are giving someone a clinical diagnosis label because of their dedication to a sport????
  4. No one will sandbag the pre starts. Fast teams will sand bag the main legs when they know they are faster.....
  5. funnily enough I agree with most of your points above. I also originally considered that modular management of the tips would be the standard way teams would deal with optimization for conditions, working around the % change rules. It seems obvious right? While it seems unlikely at this stage that any team would not be trying out their best foils (you may yourself have argued this had a long learning curve) it would be a truly audacious move to whip out a set of fast tips hidden under a tarp and say, 'lets just slip these puppies on and take off the 2 by 4 planks.....', in the knowledge that you've been testing them in tanks in Southampton and have been assured they're control capabilities are the same...... I think it's an unlikely, but an interesting thought.
  6. I admire your faith in corinthian values. The mind works in strange ways - when JS gets behind the wheel of that OR boat he wants only one thing and that is to win the AC. His tolerance of risk racing France will low, he know's he's going to win, why should he risk his boat. His tolerance of risk racing ETNZ will be high, he doesn't want to get beaten and anyway, he probably has a back up boat. It's human behaviour exacerbated by testosterone flooding into the brain at the peak of sport.
  7. It's not tin foil. You might not be old enough to have seen Motor racing incidents between senna and Prost, and the antics of schumacher in his prime - these were truly life threatening. The rules are tilted to give a huge advantage to OR and it would surprise me enormously if they did not up their risk quotient on teams that are a a genuine challenger to them in the match.
  8. bravely said, and 100% agree. Making it a joke or minimising it exacerbates the problem.
  9. ^completely agree Foyle. It's also at these times at the start of a design cycle (assuming these boats will last) where smaller teams have the greatest chance of stumbling on/ exploring an unused corner of the rule to get maximum advantage. Once a few cycles are through, the big gains are over and it becomes making 1% gains everywhere. As tech advances, these 1% gains will be more and more found by those with the greatest data processing and design tools (at least in the boat itself, but also in the athletes). Any team, and especially teams who can harness that start up mentatlity (ETNZ are good at this) have a better chance in this cycle than they will in future cycles to take it away from a defender.
  10. Northern Ireland will Brexit with the rest of the UK, of which it is part. Brexit is happening to the UK (I won't dig into every side point of that again), and it affects the constituent components of the UK, at a simplified level to England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. There is a special case with Northern Ireland because it has a free border with another EU country (Ireland), but it does not affect the fact that NI, will be part of Brexit (whereas Ireland most certainly won't).
  11. ^ I think that is fairly likely. There is no way the bodged cycle system we saw on the back of the OR boat is going into production....
  12. I've seen this before, and it's the best attempt I've ever seen at explaining the quagmire
  13. Mostly right but not quite. Part (Northern Ireland) of the Island of Ireland is part of the UK, and part of it (Republic of Ireland) is not...... Truly, it is a mindboggling scenario that is not helped by historical change, strange sporting affiliations, and erroneous common usage.
  14. To everyone back there, all our thoughts from nz
  15. In this case I was helping out someone from another country in Europe very likely not to understand the vagaries of the various political and geographical combinations of those islands off the coast of continental europe. I also got it right.... while GB is strangely used for naming sports teams, you are correct in that it very much annoys those people who live in areas which are not the Island of Britain, yet are in the political union of the UK. GB as a political unit ceased some point about 200 years ago. While the name is in common usage, it's not correct in the terms that Alinghi4eva was trying to discuss (I'm not for one moment being critical of him). What we maybe can all agree on is that it is a very complex issue to understand, that the link provided by Foil Arms and Hogg is a fun way of introducing the madness, and the U is indeed at some risk...... In summary though, returning to the actual point, if BA needed to create a sailing team with those of a specific nationality, his remit would be the UK, not the Island of Britain. Anyway, who said I was a foreigner?