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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.
    • B.J. Porter

      Moderation Team Change   06/16/2017

      After fifteen years of volunteer moderation at SA, I will no longer be part of the moderation team. The decision to step aside is mine, and has been some time in the works but we did not wish to announce it in advance for a number of reasons. It's been fun, but I need my time back for other purposes now. The Underdawg admin account will not be monitored until further notice, as I will be relinquishing control of it along with my administrative privileges. Zapata will continue on as a moderator, and any concerns or issues can be directed to that account or to the Editor until further notice. Anyone interested in helping moderate the forums should reach out to Scot by sending a PM to the Editor account. Please note that I am not leaving the community, I am merely stepping aside from Admin responsibilities and privileges on the site.


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  1. Show ain't over til etc etc
  2. love it! The thought of Kim Dotcom trying get inside those hulls to check for dodgy sensors....
  3. There's a big difference between " severely limited" and impossible. In addition to this a lot of the (illegal) sensing hardware available could be easily concealed from or passed off as something else to a non electronic savvy measurer. A smart control management should actually use less hydraulic power as all movements are the minimum (low drag) amount required, the what we now look at as crude manual systems that were what should have been used in SF could easily use a great deal more power as it was all too easy to overtrim the foil requiring further power to correct this.
  4. Interesting.... and just who is the "electronics guru from New Zealand"? Do we know him/her because I'd thought if they were as described one or both of us would.
  5. Remember this post? I think it would be a grave mistake to think this all going to be easy for ETNZ, even if they get 2 more bullets tomorrow. In SF Oracle managed to turn a slow boat into a rocket when they were given just 1 day off racing, after tomorrows racing they've got 5. History says the team has cheated in the past, so put into a corner would they resist the opportunity to do it again? Illegal electronic control systems are easy to hide and very very hard to find unless you really know what you're doing, particularly as some of the potential options are at software level.
  6. Since when did being part of a consortium of three that owns half of a companies shares make an individual a "majority owner" ? Maybe your education is different to mine but a third of 50% comes out at 16.67 % (rounded up) both Richard and Isabel have a third of 48% in a second 3 way consortium i.e. 16% each and a further individual share each making each them both 17% shareholders. Last time I attended an educational institution 17 was more than 16.67, so that means 2 people can claim to own a larger share of KYC the Dean. I've got better things to do with my time than argue with attention seeking trolls, but despite that I still think you have no right to try and influence peoples buying choices and therefore peoples livelyhoods based on your own sad beliefs, particularly when you can't even get your facts right. You're obviously a total looser so don't expect to do anything more than ignore you in future.
  7. You're entitled to your opinions, but you have no entitlement to fuck up peoples careers spreading lies. Dean is not a majority share holder of Kiwi Yachting, yes he is shareholder but not "majority owner" as you rant. Telling people not to buy from KYC is bang out of order, there are people whose livelyhoods depend on being employed by them. I worked for them for ten years and have many friends who are still there including the majority shareholder. Personally I'm disappointed that Dean is training alongside Oracle but he's every right to do so. When you're slagging him off as you are, It should be remembered that when RC, BB and co. bailed to the Swiss in search of the filthy buck he chose to stay with TNZ and be part of the programme that helped rebuild the team. Sure they failed to defend and he's not managed to win the cup back but he poured his heart and soul into that team. I can understand why he didn't want to hang around in a non sailing role when PB was given the helm even though I'd rather he hadn't gone down the route he has, it's his right to do so. He's made his choices in life, but you have no right to try and influence other peoples spending spreading bare faced lies on social media, particularly as the people it most directly affects have absolutely no influence on Dean. Withdraw your comment and publically apologise ..... or don't you have the balls to admit you're wrong?
  8. who won the start?
  9. Fair comment....still a prick though
  10. Jeeezzz you really are a prick.
  11. I'm not convinced you're right there, why would ETNZ put the cup back? If they do win then it'll probably be because they've got the best foil,wing,hydraulic etc package. That would mean they were ahead in terms of a starting point for the next AC were they to continue to run with the current or at least not too greater variant boat. GD has actually come over as very positive about how the actual racing is shaping up and not just because ETNZ are performing well. So forget history look at the present and ask yourself why change things too much? I'm pretty sure the rest of the ETNZ team wouldn't want too many changes for the same reasons. Sure ETNZ didn't sign up to the framework agreement but that doesn't mean that they didn't like a lot of what was in there. If they win then they can cherry pick the agreement. Personally I suspect you'll see a tweaked version of the AC 50's racing in AKL, with a larger percentage of the sailing team having to be nationals in the NZ summer of 2019/20. The ACWS probably toast, or at the very least downgraded in terms of it's importance to the qualifiers i.e. no bonus points to be brought into it.
  12. ^^ Needs the peril sensitive sunglasses too https://www.google.co.nz/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0ahUKEwiU_b7TyoDUAhVKkpQKHfRFC4wQFggTMAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fhitchhikers.wikia.com%2Fwiki%2FJoo_Janta_200_Super-Chromatic_Peril_Sensitive_Sunglasses&usg=AFQjCNFKWKKjmnsIAIlcMO2BrjJpOuzNqw&sig2=uMprAE9mpxtmPQZdhDvbdQ
  13. You do realise that article is dated 23 Feb 2009? Having said that Mick is an honerable man from what I understand he closed the doors owing nobody. A huge loss to the NZ marine industry in my opinion, I spent many a happy hour working there in the past.
  14. Possibly because the info I've got is wrong, although that source is normally very reliable or because they just didn't mention it, would you if they'd failed so quickly? Not that they should be blamed if this was the case, they would be building to ETNZ in house design and engineering and to my knowledge S.S. have little experience of foil design, so couldn't be expected to point a shortcoming in the engineering design if one was apparent. These foils are cutting edge stuff, there's no set of tables that can used as a reference to cross check engineering design. It must be real headache trying to work out just how much carbon is needed to get the strength required without making the whole thing to heavy. Glad it's not my problem.
  15. My guess is that the first set were a little under engineered hence the damage. So the fix probably involved not only loosing the broken or over stressed carbon but some core as well so the replacement carbon + a bit extra to beef the whole thing up a couple of notches but finish up with the same profile originally designed and within the 30% weight change allowed. Not an easy job, hence the time taken. If the light set were proven to be a bit on the under engineered side, as would have been the case if I'm right, then you'd certainly go back to your calcs before getting your high wind set measured and do any adjustments before measuring, thereby not loosing the 30 % allowance to make repairs should one of those damn turtles come up for a breath of air at the wrong time. Yeah sure it means the foils are later on the boat than is ideal, but better that than be back on training foils half way through the semis...... can't imagine the race foils will be a huge advance forward from the training foils rather a logical progression onwards, so with talent in that team adapting to them should not proove too much of a balls ache. Posted the above yesterday, but on the wrong thread. Spoke to a contact today that leaves me thinking I'm right. Although the contact is not famed for reliability, so could be a red herring!