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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.

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  1. nothing will bond properly to crap... sand/grind the crap off, put a thin layer of carbon on the inner skin (bonded over the exposed balsa edge), apply foam under vacuum, apply outer skin under vacuum did this on a nomex moth and it worked a treat
  2. If BR had done their business right, the M2 should have been the BR2. But the elephant in the room is that rather than focusing on improving the winning product they had, BR lost direction and production quality went to shit. They couldn't even compete against their old boats, much less anything new. AMAC may have learned a thing or two from being part of that experience. Agreed, the BR FX was a pile of crap. My experience was cracking struts, cracking hull-deck joins, leaked like a sieve, shoddy mast joiner, in only two sails as a somewhat experienced mothie (consistent foiling gybes). Probably could've broken even more if I hadn't got a different boat.
  3. Boats coming in on port should always leave room anyway so that they are on a broad reach by the time they round the mark. Maybe I'm just chicken, but if coming in on starboard I always overlay and gybe low, then I can come into the mark hotter and not have any issues with leaving room. Coming in on port for a good mark rounding is not enough room to let in a stbd boat that still needs to gybe. That's fine Rob, but we're rarely rounding with any other boats at the back of the fleet.
  4. Yes Phil, I have raced moths on a rectangular course a number of times before. The bottom mark I am talking about is the port one when looking upwind, the wing mark of sorts, where port and stbd boats are coming together. The real bottom mark (the finish buoy) is a non-issue, everyone is coming in on port. How on earth is anyone supposed to identify and then communicate an overlap well before the 2 boat length zone on a moth. One decent puff sends us spearing off lower at a moments notice. Yes, as the rules are now, port must anticipate stbd boats intentions well ahead of the bottom mark. Imagine a similar scenario at the top mark if port had right-of-way over stbd. It would be chaos with the tacking boat forcing layline boats to keep clear. We've seen numerous collisions and near misses with stbd right-of-way forcing their position at the bottom mark, particularly when congested. If stbd had to keep clear I would imagine a much less risky bottom mark rounding.
  5. Hah, was interrupted before finishing this post. If stbd had to give way at the bottom mark it would force the boat that has to do a manoeuvre (stbd has to gybe) to pick the best spot to do this, avoiding all the port tackers on the layline. From a risk perspective, stbd is taking a risk that there will be room to complete a gybe without impacting any port boats on the layline. If stbd takes the risk with the thought "I'm stbd, screw the port tackers" then stuffs up the gybe infront of a port boat, even though stbd has right-of-way, that's a bad situation for both boats. On the other hand, the port boat is committed to the layline course at their gybe. At the speeds we travel there is very little a port boat can do if a stbd boat tries to force a risky rounding in-front of us and stuffs it up. This is about risk mitigation, if stbd was forced to give-way to port at the bottom mark rounding then the risks are significantly reduced, which is what rules are really there for.
  6. The only reason I can think for the port/stbd comment would be bottom mark roundings with stbd gybers putting pressure on port boats on the lay-line. 2-4 boat lengths is very close to the mark at 20-25 knots and leaving options very late for the port boats that are preparing to round. If stbd had to give-way
  7. ah, forgot about the missing boom...well then, the launch will evolve to be like the skiffs, upright with a person under each wing bar. Any trolley will be a pain in the bum.
  8. /crystal ball/ The trolley launching feature is a non-issue. Once you get used to it, every wazp will launch on their sides. You will not see launching with one person holding two wazps upright while the second person takes the trolleys back up the beach like lasers do. Wazps will be handled on-shore like moths are currently, it is just easier. Sure, wheel the boat to the waters edge, but the best way to get on the water will be to capsize it and take the cradle off, much safer and easier. Plus, everyone is talking about launching the wazp, but no-one has brought up landing one. Again, they'll be treated just like moths, capsizing at the last second and carrying out of the water on its side. No-one will capsize in deep water, pull the boards up then sail the last bit with boards up, impossible! And good luck man-handling the boat onto the trolley, they are too light/lively. Having said that, I am interested in the latest trolley design to see if these issues can be solved, but I stand by the first prediction.
  9. Excellent decision to go for a bolt rope sail, aligns the boat well with the intended market.
  10. Zip ties. I've seen them working on a moth tramp.
  11. Clearly there is an issue with the punctuation then, because it is bolded to signify that it is indeed the "boom spar"... http://moth-sailing.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/MTH2013CR220313.pdf
  12. Well, the boom rule is a little ambiguous, plus with the lever vangs sometimes being laminated onto the boom there is precedent that boom "fittings" can escape the 90mm ring rule. Only the "section" needs to fit in the ring. What is stopping a lever being 500mm chord length and wing shaped from gooseneck to mainsheet, it is only a fitting? I'm really surprised noone has done it yet. Having said that though, I agree with the intention of the original rule that the boom should pass through a 90mm ring. Although I think it would be a really neat development to allow moveable fairings under the boom as described above. I don't care if it is measured in total sail area. " 8.6 Any boom spar section, or mast spar below the lower measurement band shall be capable of passing through a ring of 90mm internal diameter, excluding fittings. The area of these items shall not be included in the total measured area. "
  13. As an ex mini40 racer, I'm loving the evolution to foils. But I can't understand why a one metre multihull class is in existence, so hard to keep them upright in a blow or get them moving in the light winds. Admittedly the foils seem to make them easier to sail, but still, the mini40 isn't that much bigger and seems so much more controllable. "Bent the rudder shafts on both boats in the gusty conditions which made them difficult to steer..." Yep, the shafts need to be big, surprisingly large loads on the rudder. I ended up with something like 4-5mm 316 SS rod. Loads will be bigger now on foils.
  14. seem to recall a mention of the sydney boat show for release...
  15. good grief! back to the story at hand though, with a name like "nihilism", it is feasible that we've been trolled...