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  1. R2AK 2018

    Not this year. Hopefully next year. Might need to try a solo attempt.
  2. R2AK 2018

    Solosailor built this drive for Team MAD Dog in 2016. It worked well. Total gearing was 4:1 with a large diameter high pitch prop from apcprop.com. We bought a number of different props with different pitches. The one in these photos broke. The carbon props did much better. There are a few things I'll do different for the next one: 1. The clipless pedals were a pain. I would just go with pedal baskets next time. It took time to put on my bike shoes and I eventually lost one overboard. Baskets would have been easier and more convenient and would have been compatible with my sea boots. 2. Multi-speed gearing!!! For sure. This certainly adds complexity, but I would go for it next time. The issue was that we were geared fine for flat water and no wind, but for "motorsailing" we needed higher gearing that we didn't have. This meant that as soon as there was any wind we had to fold up the drive despite the fact that if we could just spin the pedals fast enough at the same power input we could have added a knot of boat speed when there was 2kts of wind.
  3. Would anyone be interested/excited about an R2AK inspired race to Tierra del Fuego? It’s 1090nm from Puerto Montt to Ushuaia. All but two sections can be navigated in inland channels. Smallish boats, no motors. Sail, row, pedal. Last year my R2AK experience was incredible. The only disappointment was that it was over so quickly. I could have gone again right then and there. What would be next level? Me thinks Patagonia! I’ve been wanting to visit Patagonia for years. I’ve got a new boat (one with a cabin). So why not? The beauty of high latitude sailing and the navigational challenges of racing in fjords is a whole different thing than ocean racing and for me has a special appeal. The R2AK organizers do an incredible job with their event. But they benefit from proximity to a large Pacific NW sailing fleet. What would it take to attract 20-30 crazies to Chile? One idea is providing logistical support in the form of barge transport for the fleet from some West Coast US city to the start and return from the finish. Obviously this would be a multi-month commitment for the boats if not the crews. Another idea is providing sat phones and professional weather forecasting to the fleet. Am I tripping? Would anybody do this with me?
  4. Races for Cruising boats in the PNW

    A few cyclors and you're good! But seriously, Madrona and Ocelot did well last year. This year an O'Day did well.
  5. Races for Cruising boats in the PNW

    Pull the engine and do Race to Alaska. You won't regret it.
  6. R2AK Inspired Race to Tierra del Fuego

    Not Patagonia, the San Juan islands. In any event, I can see that getting a fleet assembled to race to Tierra Del Fuego would be unlikely without a local fleet already active in Southern Chile. Despite R2AK's international draw, 80% of the teams were local to the race area. I know there's a transient cruising fleet always moving around through southern Chile, but I've never heard of any racing down there. I haven't gotten an overwhelming response to this thread. It seems like this might need to be a solo or 2-3 boat adventure.
  7. R2AK Inspired Race to Tierra del Fuego

    Amazing. HOG just paddled 700 miles to Alaska on a SUP and is all in to SUP to Tierra Del Fuego. We're not worthy! Norway would be something. But Patagonia has a special appeal to me. I can see that enticing a fleet would be difficult. Maybe it doesn't have to be a race. But making it a race creates a focus that I needed, at least for R2AK. Can't explain why.
  8. R2AK Inspired Race to Tierra del Fuego

    I can see that it would be easier to get a fleet assembled in Norway. But the route itself looks much more exposed. I'm just looking at Google maps, no charts. It seems like the fjords cut deep inland but that there aren't a lot of connecting channels. Would an engineless race up Norway's coast be more or less exposed than R2AK?
  9. R2AK Inspired Race to Tierra del Fuego

    Don't call it my race just yet. It's only an idea at the moment. I'm merely trying to guage interest and suss out whatever big issues there might be. Would an R2AKesq cash prize motivate people? Does Norway make more sense than Chile?
  10. 2017 Race to Alaska

    +1 Incredible performance.
  11. 2017 Race to Alaska

    Last year MAD Dog hit a log that did minor damage to one of the bows. This year P&W hit a log that broke thier rudder fuse. TPSR hit a log, damaged thier rudder. Broderna grounded. Bad Kitty grounded. Sistership grounded. This is just what i know of. Tough race.
  12. 2017 Race to Alaska

    Not an expert in this, but I would think a multihull is more likely to hit something. Two or three hulls, multiple multiple dagerboards, multiple rudders. Multis have more dangling stuff in the water.
  13. 2017 Race to Alaska

    A TP52 is far from the ultimate weapon for this race. A couple years ago we raced the M32 against a fleet of TP52s in the Santa Barbara to King Harbor race. Total horizon job. Put 2 hours on the fastest one in a 100 mile race. Would have be more with pedaling allowed. A Volvo 70 would probably only be faster in extreme conditions but would be stuck with no wind. And good luck getting in and out of Victoria. My ultimate weapon would be a 40' carbon trimaran with a quad prop drive system. I don't see a monohull that beats an M32 in R2AK.
  14. 2017 Race to Alaska

    Any update on Rod Price Adventure?
  15. 2017 Race to Alaska

    I don't think fun is necessarily the point of this race. If you have fun, good for you. But I think the creators organized this race to offer a personal challenge for those willing to take it. I see it as akin to climbing a mountain. Anybody can try and preparation, skill, and luck will determine whether you make it. Every step of the climb is miserable. Your legs and lungs burn. Half the party turns back, and you may question your own sanity. But you do it because it's there and for the 5 minutes of elation when you stand on the top. Then you snap a picture, trudge your tired ass back down the mountain, and ask yourself when you'll get to do it again.
  16. 2017 Race to Alaska

    I guess I can pick a horse.
  17. 2017 Race to Alaska

    Huge congrats to Team Pure&Wild/Freeburd! Can't wait to hear the report.
  18. 2017 Race to Alaska

    Thx re Mama Tried. Looking forward to sailing her. The Burd Bros have about 740 more miles on her than I do. Re exposure, not being able to get out of the weather really wasn't problematic for us. I suspect it would be different on a Nacra 20, but on the M32 in a bivy sack up high on the racks, exposure just wasn't a problem. But yes, having to change sides every 20 min off watch was probably our biggest challenge during the race. Hard to make good tactical decisions, maintain situational awareness, push hard, etc when utterly sleep deprived. With a center pod for sleeping we would have been 4+ hours faster last year I'm certain.
  19. 2017 Race to Alaska

    Ketch Me has made up 2/3 of what they gave up on West Coast. Easy pass if they can keep on without resting.
  20. 2017 Race to Alaska

    Do I get a cookie?
  21. 2017 Race to Alaska

    Last year we actually didn't have any issues with exposure with our drysuits and bivy sack. Lack of sleep was a much bigger challenge, at least for me. I think I got around 4 hours in 4 days. The other guys got more. I just had bad luck with my watches.
  22. 2017 Race to Alaska

    Yup! Wasn't going to mention it but got too excited to keep quite. Planning on some PNW cruising and late season racing if I can find some. Then sailing down to SF Bay. I want to do all the coastal and shorthanded racing that I couldn't do with the M32. Can't commit to R2AK18 just yet, but going to try to make it happen. Excited for opportunities to exercise the frustrated engineer in me.
  23. 2017 Race to Alaska

    Rumor true. I bought her a couple weeks before the R2AK and she's on loan to the Burd Brothers. Pretty stoked to have a horse in this race. Wish I was riding her myself. Next year... Go Pure&Wild/Freeburd!
  24. 2017 Race to Alaska

    Finish line: https://webcamketchikan.com/mega-view-cam-6/
  25. 2017 Race to Alaska

    Broderna has four on board. From this mornings video: