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  1. Has any M243 owners worked on upgrading their wing/tramp attachments/hard points?
  2. There are several boats for sale. If you PM me I will let you know what we have found?
  3. 1 in King Harbor (Gimme Shelter) 1 in San Diego (Chupacabra) 2 in St. Pete (Free Woody #6) 1 in Jericho BC (Jazz) 1 in Guilford (# 5 Ghost) 1 in SF (#1 Black Shadow) 1 in New Orleans (#12 Red Wing) 1 in Marblehead (#18 Banshee) 1 in Washington (#9) _____________ 10 boats located so far out of 18 If any one is looking to compile Martin 243 data, please contact me. I am trying to put together a list of owners and share experiences between us.
  4. Thank you! Nice to hear where they are located. 1 in King Harbor (Gimme Shelter) 1 in San Diego (Chupacabra) 2 in St. Pete 1 in Jericho BC (Jazz) 1 in Guilford (# 5 Ghost) 1 in SF (#1 Black Shadow) 1 in New Orleans (#12 Red Wing) 1 in Marblehead _____________ 9 boats located so far out of 17
  5. 1 in King Harbor (Gimme Shelter) 1 in San Diego (Chupacabra) 1 in St. Pete 1 in Jericho BC (Jazz) 1 in Guilford (# 5 Ghost) 1 in SF (#1 Black Shadow) 1 in New Orleans (#12 Red Wing) 1 in Marblehead _____________ 8 boats located
  6. Do you have a number for the Mass. boat or a name?
  7. 8 identified so far. 1 in King Harbor (Gimme Shelter) 1 in San Diego (Chupacabra) 1 in St. Pete 1 in Jericho BC (Jazz) 1 in Guilford (# 5 Ghost) 1 in Toronto (#1 Black Shadow) Now moved to SF 1 in New Orleans (#12 Red Wing) 1 in Connecticut (#18 Banshee) in the Forte Spars lot missing mast or boom Looks like there were at least 18 built? If you are an owner and want to work some communications we could start a users group and pass names and numbers around. So far we are in touch with Ghost and Gimme Shelter.
  8. more evolution to them. This boat is pretty primitive in its controls and blades. There has to be a lot of detail work that was done to make these more user friendly. I took this boat to SF and went out on a reasonably quiet summer SF day (12-16 knots, gusts to 20) and all kinds of things were failing. The mainsheet bridle pins were bent beyond saving, boom vang was inoperable, mainsheet cleat was slipping, tack line failed, two snap shackles let go, the bridle at 1:1 was not functional. I have some questions about the rudder, configuration, shape, and length. Maybe there is a way we can form a group and trade information back and forth? I am really curious about the rig tensions, as just a place to start.
  9. What about tiller extensions? Do you have 1 or two? Are they really long carbon and extend out to the wings??
  10. I own the prototype #1. I assume there has been some enhancements to the boat. The rudder is a high aspect ratio rudder. It is significantly shorter than my Melges 24 rudder. It really hurts low speed rudder authority. At high speeds upwind the rudder works well - as long as the boat is super flat and you are ahead of the power add - from puffs. Otherwise, the rudder stalls and acts as a water brake. Has anyone lengthened the stock rudder? What is the width and length of your rudders?
  11. Does anyone have any Loos gauge numbers on the uppers, lowers, or other tension numbers? Do you run different tension numbers for light medium and heavy air? And what are they?
  12. 1 in King Harbor (Gimme Shelter) 1 in San Diego (Chupacabra) 1 in St. Pete 1 in Jericho BC (Jazz) 1 in Guilford (# 5 Ghost) 1 in Toronto (#1 Black Shadow) Now moved to SF 1 in New Orleans (#12 Red Wing) Was told there were 17 boats built? Is that correct?
  13. Thanks for the information about saying it. It does look radical and it would be great to talk more. Can you IM me please? I am picking one up in a couple of days and would appreciate skipping the big steps in learning the boat. The current known disposition of boats is (still missing 7 boats): 1 in King Harbor (Gimme Shelter) 1 in San Diego (Chupacabra) 1 in St. Pete 1 in Jericho BC ("Death Machine") 1 in Guilford (# 5 Ghost) 1 in Toronto (#1 Black Shadow) 1 in New Orleans (#12 Red Wing) Any more known?
  14. 1 in King Harbor (Gimme Shelter) 1 in San Diego (Chupacabra) 1 in St. Pete 1 in Jericho BC ("Death Machine") 1 in Guilford (# 5) 1 in Toronto (#1 Black Shadow) 1 in New Orleans (#12) That leaves 7 whereabouts unknown. Anymore out there? 1 in King Harbor (Gimme Shelter) 1 in San Diego (Chupacabra) 1 in St. Pete 1 in Jericho BC ("Death Machine") 1 in Guilford (# 5) 1 in Toronto (#1 Black Shadow) 1 in New Orleans (#12 Red Wing) That leaves 7 whereabouts unknown. Anymore out there?
  15. OK, if the count is correct so far, out of 14 made: 1 in King Harbor (Gimme Shelter) 1 in San Diego (Chupacabra) 1 in St. Pete 1 in Jericho BC ("Death Machine") 1 in Guilford (# 5) 1 in Toronto (#1) Any ideas on the location of other 8? I thought there were more in BC?