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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.


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  1. Thermal camera? Water should impact ground temperature.
  2. When my mother in law says that, I know she isn't praying for cardiac health.
  3. "Thanks for the quote. I will give it all the consideration it deserves." You can't get more "Minnesota Nice" than that.
  4. Opportunity knocks. Temptation leans on the ol' doorbell.
  5. Results: http://www.mhyc.us/boating/falcon/results/15.pdf The thread that got yanked regarding the melges 24 and someone's resemblance to a hairy juicebox could have livened things up. The "I'm too good to do bow" pseudonym and description vaguely smell like lake erie too. Wonder if that'll disappear.
  6. https://cleveland.craigslist.org/boa/5178522512.html Seller is very proud of life vest inventory.
  7. Anyone recognize the white sailboat top left corner that gets shoved at 00:25 and knocked over at 00:47?
  8. Nope, starting in the middle but they made a "sundance trophy" because there's no kitchen or potty.
  9. Here, Zar.
  10. would be grateful for a recap, as link to lawsuit expired almost immediately.
  11. CM says it's "noteworthy," (page 60). Didn't see a particular conclusion beyond that observation. Plaintiff says [paraphrasing] "holy shit the boat'll fall apart if i fix it!" (pp 65-66). Making box beams out of the bunks seems(*) like it would be stiffer (M=EI) than the standard bonded floor, and depending on who interprets the rules, it's illegal. Cutting the bunks into compliance while there is no structural cabin sole would make the boat less longitudinally stiff, to the point of unseaworthy in plaintiff's estimation, than unadulterated boats. Question is whether to: a) "let this one slide" and keep 217 as-is (maybe "champ" really is just that good, but if you let him do it, you'd better let everyone. Maybe there won't be an arms race. Maybe your competition will still want to play. maybe...) b ) make 217 compliant with a case of beer and sawzall (oh noes! it'll fall apart! it's unfixable! pay me!), or c) suck it up, cut the bunks out, put in a cabin sole that is to-spec, then rebuild the bunks to class rule, taping everything that can be and nothing else. This is more than a weekend project, but then again I suspect champ has some time on his hands and some unused sail budget. (*) shitty rectangular approximation is I=(bh^3)/12. boats are curvy though, plan A doesn't show athwartships cross section, and I'm neither a civil engineer nor a naval architect. ninja edit for fucking sunglasses thing choice b Wow. Care to elaborate? If you're gonna stir that shitpot make sure you get it nice and frothy.
  12. That's an interesting assertion but if unattached would that make it any different than any of the other T10s sailing? The rebuild guide has pretty specific discussion on what can be taped. Not sure of the extent to which most boats have availed themselves of the opportunity to add tape. Rebuild guide talks about bonding cabin sole (15.12.4) to hull. It seems safe to say 217's arrangement is atypical. Racin' boats is a pricey hobby. Mistakes (like going wildly off reservation in a competitive one design class) sting. Time to suck it up, fix the boat, and come play with the rest of us. It's cheaper than suing your friends who happen to have the same plastic toy, and more fun than court. Given the fit and finish exhibited in the photos, getting 217 sound, competitive, and class-legal is unlikely to be nearly the imposition plaintiff is making it out to be.
  13. See exhibit 2, page 53. It would take about an hour to make the boat legal with a multimaster (or other tool of your choice). However, plaintiff's concern is most likely (see page 66):
  14. How's the big guy doing? Is he able to take visitors? Any updates?
  15. Nope - this is the source for those of us who know Drew (social animal that he is), but not well enough to reach out to John and family. Please keep it coming.