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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.


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  1. Edgar Meyer. Great player, great composer. Best recent concert - Edgar Meyer, John Clayton and Mike Marshal, two bass players and a mandolin.l. So musical.
  2. There's a boat docked near mine that has in-mast furling. In even the slightest breeze the furling mast makes a low, annoying moan, much like if you blow across a bottle top. That alone would give me pause to get in-mast furling. Besides sail shape issues, there are livability issues to consider.
  3. I'm installing an electric windlass on a 31' boat and am now trying to figure out where to run the 4/0 tinned battery cables to power it. The power is in the stern, the windlass is in the bow. The most obvious route is to attach the 4/0 cables to the underside of the cabin sole where they would be ~10" over the bottom of the bilge. The bilge is relatively dry and the bilge pumps are all well installed and operative. Water in the boat and the bilge filling is possible but unlikely, in any case the installation I am proposing would have no electrical connections in the bilge. The only time the wires would be live is when the breaker is on to operate the windlass. The alternative is to swiss cheese the cabinets on the starboard side drilling wire pass-through holes through fiberglass and wood installed cabinets and the aft bulkhead as well. I understand the concern about connections in the bilge that might get wet, but is that same concern valid if you run cables without connections above the bilge under the cabin sole?
  4. I was looking at the pictures and started to wonder what the underbody on the boat looks like. In the first picture the underbody looks very shallow and flat. In the second, I'm not sure what I'm seeing. In the yard I get to see all kinds of older commercial hulls and most of them have lots of dead rise and deeper draft. Maybe the whale watching fleet, with the need to cover lots of territory, tend to have more speed oriented, flatter hull shapes. With all the weight high and not much going on below the water what kind of stability would this design have? Not enough would be the obvious answer. What do you think?
  5. Keep and eye out for a fun new film, Revival, The Sam Bush Story. Entertaining and full of great music.
  6. I had Alain Vilage survey a boat for me based on a number of recommendations and the fact that both of us are based in Port Townsend (although the boat was in Seattle). I was impressed with his work and think he gave me a good and thorough picture of the boat. I would certainly use him again. That said, a friend I trust recommended Erik Bentzen, especially for race boats. Good luck with your purchase. Stay cool.
  7. Kiwi Ferris of Edensaw posted this picture of Ted on Facebook. Ted was a wonderful guy, a friend to so many, and a great sailor. I think the last time he brought ANNIE TOO out to race in light air he won in what were not ANNIE's conditions as she is a Lapworth L45, a big, powerful boat designed and built for the Transpac. Ted could sail and he kept ANNIE racing and winning. But beyond all his talents on the water and in the yard, for so many of us, his smile and warm heart will be what we will miss most.
  8. Wed race had wind at 16 at times. 4 wraps = no slipping. Thanks all for the advice.
  9. Looks like light air this evening but we'll try 4 wraps on the winch drum and report back. And, yes, I do want to buy new sheets but I'll try and calm down. Thanks for the replys and the info.
  10. 3/8 but it seems like a big 3/8ths, maybe 11mm? Tonight the wind came up at the end of the race and the sheet just stripped off the port winch. Could have been because that was the most pressure we saw during the race but the trimmer noted that even with three wraps and the line in the self tailer he had to hang on to the tail in order to grind in the line, otherwise it would just spin on the winch. When I took the winches apart everything seemed fine and I noted no differences between them.
  11. With three wraps on the winch and the line in the self tailers it still can slip and need to be hand tailed. Frustrating. I just read the following from Sailing World that backs up what you are saying. Anyone have specific line recommendations for a sheet line that works well with a winch? We're just club racing so it doesn't need to be a Grand Prix spec line (or does it?). 8. Maximize your winch power with the right cover material. Using the right cover material, regardless of the core material you choose in your high-tech lines is key to getting maximum grip from your winch drum. The cover is where the rubber meets the road—where your line hits the winch. There are multiple options available outside of the old standby polyester cover. But the more popular common-use covers include a variety of blends. Polyester/Technora is a blend that adds great grip to your winch. On smaller boats, users have found it great to hold onto in applications such as mainsheet purchase systems or spinnaker sheets that do not use winches. Vectran/Polyester blends add more slip to the sheet without making sacrifices on major wear characteristics. This allows lines to be eased around the drum without the line jumping and bumping as it is eased off the winch. Vectran/Technora is a pricier blend, but one that is built for wear and tear. Originally developed for larger boats that were eating through sheets and other lines, this comes in smaller sizes, so as to be available to a wider range of boats.
  12. Even with three wraps and the jib sheet in the self-tailer, the jib sheet slips on the winch when trying to crank it in. Time for better genoa/jib sheets or? Sheets are NE Ropes VPC, winches are year old Harken Radial ST 35's on a 31' boat with a 140% head sail. I took apart the winch and checked the springs and the assembly, everything to specs. My thinking is that VPC has a slick cover but I don't know. What line have you used that really grabs the winch?
  13. News on Team Hexagram from Small Craft Advisor "Team Hexagram, who’ve been valiantly pressing on in their thrice-repaired Hobie 20 beach cat, managed to make it through Seymour Narrows yesterday, but nearly capsized with one of the team ending up in the water. They were also forced to battle an onboard stove fire at another point. The supposedly reliable maxim that, “your boat can take more weather than you can,” might need to be retired once and for all, as many of the R2AK crews are literally dragging their reluctant, broken boats toward the finish." + 1 on congratulating the organizers. Not a big or wealthy non-profit but certainly a brave one to take something like this one for the expressed purpose of attracting younger people to sailing and to support adventure and daring in everyone's life. If you get a chance to hear Jake Beattie, ED of the NW Maritime Center, talk he's an inspiring guy.