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  1. Spirit-33' s&s

    Love Spirit!! I raced my first two Pac Cup's on her, great boat.
  2. Svendsen's Boatworks To Close 11/1/17

    FYI -- Alameda has rent control hence the $2200 a month 550 SQFT bachelor pad. Remove rent control, and the folks paying $500 move out and some supply constraint placed on the market is removed and lowers market rent. Building more housing stock also helps with that. The Bay Area needs 10X more housing projects being built, we are the only MSA in the nation with job growth out pacing demand for years.
  3. Pac Cup 2018

  4. Pac Cup 2018

    I think they are all going to have different sails-- that's just apart of the race. Also thes will all weight differently so they will have have slight ratting differences. I would not be surprised to see at least one boat race with a MH set up. And it would not surprise me to see a boat with an A5 on the class pole.
  5. Pac Cup 2018

    The express fleet is having a good resurgence lately on the Bay. 8 OD boats will be the biggest one design fleet I think the race has ever had. I know there have been bigger sc50 fleets, but they are hardly OD boats at this point most have new rigs/ keels and rudders. Its going to be fun watching the triple handed e-27 performance against the dh boats.
  6. East Coast version of a Moore 24

    I don't remember us having a 24 hour run within 10 miles of a sc70, but we were sending it. We did have a 240 mile day. I rember Mark and I guessing at our daily 8am runs. On the 240 mile day we both were way off, I guessed 213 and mark 208. I our defense we had been running without instruments 18 hours during the day and had rounded down so hard at 2 am that we tacked. I love the moore offshore!!
  7. East Coast version of a Moore 24

    Simply put there is no substitute for a Moore, if you want one buy one. If you don't you will regret. Re: Moore being a light air upwind boat that's total bs. We have held our own double handed on upwind races, granted downwind is a lot more fun.
  8. Pole back! From the FP...

    We run an ASO with a pole, you can still pole back to sail deep. 5 string set up, outside gybes. We tested against our OD fleet aso was faster from 3 knots tws to 32 tws. Over 32 tws it was more about survival and the s3 we found more control over with an out grabber.
  9. Pole back! From the FP...

    why not run ayso kites, we found them fast on point to point races and not hit in NoCal PHRF.
  10. Asymmetric spinnaker vs poled out jib

    We will be there on Sunda! Looking forward to it.
  11. How wrong am I to use this sail?

    Not really... just a matter of what coast you are on.
  12. How wrong am I to use this sail?

    Blast reacher ... it's the right sail when you need it.
  13. 5 mm

    On the moore, that were built 2" wider on the port side. We line the mast up with the keel. We can find any notable difference tack to tack.
  14. DH Pac Cup boat

    I agree completely, run the boat you have or have access to. We went on a Moore in 2016 because we had it, but any boat will have fun if they have practiced some out the gate. I also agree that asymmetric kites are great additions to this race, I don't think you need bowsprit as this well have an impact on your rating. We had 2 ayso kites on the Moore and 2 symmetric all had their day in the sun.
  15. they are doing string drops bay its amazing to watch the kite come down in 3 seconds.