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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.


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  1. Kim & Bob, Congratulations! One more step in the process of building what will clearly be one of the most beautiful boats ever! Beau
  2. Kim, the Gori on S'agapo does work really well. My only complaint is the cost of the zincs - which Gori must believe are made from solid gold. I'm about to start casting my own. The 'overdrive' feature of the Gori is 'over-rated' and I've found it only occasionally useful. BV
  3. BJ, That is a fun and fugly boat - however - the companionway looks like it's off-center Clearly a major hazard at sea.... wherever that is. BV
  4. Kim, The boat is looking really wonderful! Tanks fur da postin'. BV
  5. It would sure be nice if folks were still racing boats like Bolero, Baruna and Orient off shore around here. Sadly, the current boats have become so painfully uncomfortable that I only know a few owners crazy enough to want to spend a night at sea aboard one. It wouldn't matter where one was, a night at sea - dock - anchor they would all be wonderful aboard any of these three old beauties. BV
  6. The owners of Baruna and Orient begat "Barient". My first employer after college, about '73. Heaps of stories. The time the paint factory next door caught fire and burning paint was running across the parking lot, building Ti winches for 12 meters, building 10s for early Santa Cruz boats and having them bitch about "tooooo heavy!!!" Good times! A long long time ago. BV
  7. I love this thread! THANK!! Great to see the farming/fishing/canning pics too, nice to have a change for boats once in a while, sort of like Austin's cow picks. A fella needs a few minutes a month away from boats.
  8. I don't think the Ocean Planet rails did much, not big enough to give much "lift" to the bow and caused pretty ugly drag at moderate speeds. What we need are deployable spray shields that extend horizontally from the side of the boat to deflect the bow wave and are only extended on the windward side. After all, those race guys have canting keels, how much harder can it be to build a spray knocker-downer??
  9. Another "Here Here" from the back bench for Oregonarchist and even a "Huzza!"
  10. Great Red, You absolutely right - fast is almost always wet! I haven't bothered to do the math, but I'm guessing that one could actually predict the "spray zone" and the "water zone" and therefore the DBW required for a "dry" ride. From experience on an old gaff headed NARROW 90' cutter in big bumps in the Med, it was completely dry going upwind in 35k of wind at about 14k of boat speed once one was further than about 50 feet from the bow. The spray simply went into the mainsail and slid off the foot and leach. BV
  11. nailed it. As a back bencher, I'm happy to add a "Here Here" to that.
  12. Kimb, Now that I can see that beautiful boat coming together I am realizing that you and I both have "center cockpit" boats. The cockpits are so far forward in the boat that in any chubby boat, as opposed to slender svelte boats like ours, there would be an entire condominium aft of the cockpit. I started thinking about this looking at the pictures of Sliver and trying to understand why S'agapo (and soon the Sliver) are such damp boats to sail upwind for their length. I was thinking: "She's as wet as a center cockpit boat." etc.... then it dawned on me that there is a critical measurement we don't put into the specs for boats when we evaluate their design. I'll call it the DBW measurement - that stands for Distance to Bow Wave. All boats make spray. Water falls at the same rate after it's been splashed up into the air. Therefore, in 25 knots of wind sailing upwind at about 7 knots the bow wave will land about 35 to 40 aft of the bow regardless of what length boat you've got. The DBW dimension will tell you how wet you're going to be... sort of. I'm sure Bob and the gang have already thought all about this and have internal guidelines for the DBW on a boat. But, I'm going to join the Admiral on the fan tail next time we're doing a long beat to windward in big seas. Let that damned OttO earn his keep. BV
  13. Kim, Thanks for the photos. It is GREAT to see you up and around and clearly feeling better. SWIMBO's chicken soup must work. BV
  14. Yipie, it's Monday and Kimb is feeling better. PICTURES!!!!
  15. Kim, I don't remember what you're putting on the cabin sole as a "finish", or even if the sole is wood, but I must say being able to pull S'agapo's sole out and varnish it in the garage on a rainy day is a real pleasure compared to the alternatives. BV