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    Perry Sliver Class Day Sailor

    Kim & Bob, Congratulations! One more step in the process of building what will clearly be one of the most beautiful boats ever! Beau
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    Perry Sliver Class Day Sailor

    Kim, the Gori on S'agapo does work really well. My only complaint is the cost of the zincs - which Gori must believe are made from solid gold. I'm about to start casting my own. The 'overdrive' feature of the Gori is 'over-rated' and I've found it only occasionally useful. BV
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    Uglyboat Admiration Society Hang Out

    BJ, That is a fun and fugly boat - however - the companionway looks like it's off-center Clearly a major hazard at sea.... wherever that is. BV
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    Perry Sliver Class Day Sailor

    Kim, The boat is looking really wonderful! Tanks fur da postin'. BV
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    Perry Sliver Class Day Sailor

    It would sure be nice if folks were still racing boats like Bolero, Baruna and Orient off shore around here. Sadly, the current boats have become so painfully uncomfortable that I only know a few owners crazy enough to want to spend a night at sea aboard one. It wouldn't matter where one was, a night at sea - dock - anchor they would all be wonderful aboard any of these three old beauties. BV
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    Perry Sliver Class Day Sailor

    The owners of Baruna and Orient begat "Barient". My first employer after college, about '73. Heaps of stories. The time the paint factory next door caught fire and burning paint was running across the parking lot, building Ti winches for 12 meters, building 10s for early Santa Cruz boats and having them bitch about "tooooo heavy!!!" Good times! A long long time ago. BV
  7. beauvrolyk

    boatbuilding

    I love this thread! THANK!! Great to see the farming/fishing/canning pics too, nice to have a change for boats once in a while, sort of like Austin's cow picks. A fella needs a few minutes a month away from boats.
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    Perry Sliver Class Day Sailor

    I don't think the Ocean Planet rails did much, not big enough to give much "lift" to the bow and caused pretty ugly drag at moderate speeds. What we need are deployable spray shields that extend horizontally from the side of the boat to deflect the bow wave and are only extended on the windward side. After all, those race guys have canting keels, how much harder can it be to build a spray knocker-downer??
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    Perry Sliver Class Day Sailor

    Another "Here Here" from the back bench for Oregonarchist and even a "Huzza!"
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    Perry Sliver Class Day Sailor

    Great Red, You absolutely right - fast is almost always wet! I haven't bothered to do the math, but I'm guessing that one could actually predict the "spray zone" and the "water zone" and therefore the DBW required for a "dry" ride. From experience on an old gaff headed NARROW 90' cutter in big bumps in the Med, it was completely dry going upwind in 35k of wind at about 14k of boat speed once one was further than about 50 feet from the bow. The spray simply went into the mainsail and slid off the foot and leach. BV
  11. beauvrolyk

    Perry Sliver Class Day Sailor

    nailed it. As a back bencher, I'm happy to add a "Here Here" to that.
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    Perry Sliver Class Day Sailor

    Kimb, Now that I can see that beautiful boat coming together I am realizing that you and I both have "center cockpit" boats. The cockpits are so far forward in the boat that in any chubby boat, as opposed to slender svelte boats like ours, there would be an entire condominium aft of the cockpit. I started thinking about this looking at the pictures of Sliver and trying to understand why S'agapo (and soon the Sliver) are such damp boats to sail upwind for their length. I was thinking: "She's as wet as a center cockpit boat." etc.... then it dawned on me that there is a critical measurement we don't put into the specs for boats when we evaluate their design. I'll call it the DBW measurement - that stands for Distance to Bow Wave. All boats make spray. Water falls at the same rate after it's been splashed up into the air. Therefore, in 25 knots of wind sailing upwind at about 7 knots the bow wave will land about 35 to 40 aft of the bow regardless of what length boat you've got. The DBW dimension will tell you how wet you're going to be... sort of. I'm sure Bob and the gang have already thought all about this and have internal guidelines for the DBW on a boat. But, I'm going to join the Admiral on the fan tail next time we're doing a long beat to windward in big seas. Let that damned OttO earn his keep. BV
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    Perry Sliver Class Day Sailor

    Kim, Thanks for the photos. It is GREAT to see you up and around and clearly feeling better. SWIMBO's chicken soup must work. BV
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    Perry Sliver Class Day Sailor

    Yipie, it's Monday and Kimb is feeling better. PICTURES!!!!
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    Perry Sliver Class Day Sailor

    Kim, I don't remember what you're putting on the cabin sole as a "finish", or even if the sole is wood, but I must say being able to pull S'agapo's sole out and varnish it in the garage on a rainy day is a real pleasure compared to the alternatives. BV
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    Uglyboat Admiration Society Hang Out

    Ish, You gota love that Miami Beach Color Scheme - Miami is the ONLY place that thing would fit in. Amazing! BV
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    Uglyboat Admiration Society Hang Out

    Yup, I'm sure it would have made the cabin sole smaller. But most of the space near the turn of the bilge at the waterline was behind things like berths and below lockers, so she would have lost a lot of storage space. I agree 6" would have probably been enough. On that long trip, we were stunned once when we loaded her down with supplies, fuel, spares, etc... for what we forecast would be about 60 days at sea. We sunk the entire boot top under the water - getting that 6" you asked for - and she was beautiful. We just stood there looking at her, considering how we were going to keep the boot top from growing barnacles and admiring how beautiful she looked that low in the water. BV
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    Uglyboat Admiration Society Hang Out

    Somewhere along the line, I think the last one built, there was a K-50 that had a "normal" truck cabin. That boat looked much better than the version with the big windows. That said, having sailed K-50 #2 (AKAMAI) from Los Angeles down through the canal and almost to Jamaica (that's another story) and then back to LA again, I can tell you those big windows are awfully nice for folks living aboard. The traditional trunk cabin version feels like a dungeon. The thing I've never understood about the K-50 design is why Paul put so much freeboard on her. She had about a foot of space from the top of the engine to the cabin sole, plenty of space to lower the sole a FOOT! Imagine what a K-50 would have looked like with a foot less freeboard all around - amazing. Someplace I have a line drawing of the K-50 which I modified to reduce the freeboard - it's stunning. BV
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    Perry Sliver Class Day Sailor

    +100 on this. I have a friend who misoverestimated how good she felt after pneumonia and the relapse was TOUGH! Take care!!
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    Perry Sliver Class Day Sailor

    You mean those buttons on the side of the camera actually DO SOMETHING??? Who knew??? BV
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    Perry Sliver Class Day Sailor

    Kimb, I want to know more about the exhaust for the heater. My heater doesn't work worth S**t on a windy stb tack as the exhaust is underwater - cuz the entire port rail is under water and the pipe is a few inches below the port rail. So, the idea of a vent on each side etc.... per what you said is very interesting. While I can live without heat on a long stb tack in heavy weather, I CAN NOT LIVE WITHOUT HOT FOOD AND COFFEE.... sorry to get "expressive". BV
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    Perry Sliver Class Day Sailor

    Kim, I now refer to the Sliver as the best-built boat I've ever seen, and have sent a number of folks who "think" they are boat builders here to see how it should really be done. The team is just amazing!! Beau
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    Perry Sliver Class Day Sailor

    Tom, I don't think that Sliver will bend much at all. Also, in addition to the bend from rig tension, which seems pretty static.... imagine the torque when you're going up wind and heeled 40 degrees. Then you drop off the windward side of a wave and the keel hits the water to side of the hull a couple of feet and then the hull slams down. That must try to twist the heck out of a hull. This one looks very strong. BV
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    Perry Sliver Class Day Sailor

    OK, Bob, it's not overbuilt... It's just a Lot Stronger looking than the foam and carbon POS that I've sailed on recently. That said, the POS I was on couldn't hold jib stay tension. We were lifting the ends of the boat up. So much for engineering. BV
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    Perry Sliver Class Day Sailor

    Kimb, I just have to say that this boat is WAY over built! Geeeesh!!! That thing is going to be strong STRONG STRONG!!! Of course who am I to second guess the Maestro? With all that internal structure tabbed in - the boat's an ice breaker! Seriously, the build quality looks outstanding. I don't think I've ever seen better. BV