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  1. AC36 - The Venue

    Public viewing areas of boat launch/return for Halsey Vs HHW
  2. AC36 - The Venue

    I think TNZ will eventually realise this is best too. Bigger pics of the options from https://thespinoff.co.nz/auckland/23-11-2017/the-day-grant-dalton-backed-down/ Also: why Lot18 hadn't been previously included is because its going to become a superyacht servicing facility, using it would be counterproductive at a time when its services will be in high demand.
  3. AC36 - The Venue

    Watched the Youtube stream The 3 options they were debating Council didn't actually vote for what they're now calling Wynyard Basin, just voted out Halsey extension. 2 going forward to negotiations with Govt for funding are the Wynyard Point (Govt wants that looked into) & Wynyard Basin options. Wynyard Point while initially looking cheap apparently will actually be quite pricey in part because it costs Council a bunch of rent income from displaced existing uses so as well as being inferior for 'village' aspect its likely to go nowhere. TNZ reps Trevor Kevin Shoebridge & Tindall said they weren't opposed to Wynyard Basin (but their faces didn't really) so Council took that as OK to kill Halsey.
  4. AC36 - The Venue

    Lets remember what it is that made AC2000 venue so good: The bases all had great viewing from the public areas opposite & along entry/exit area. There is at best extremely limited public viewing and possibly actually NONE in the Halsey only option. From the public-on-the-waterfront point of view its literally the WORST. The dispersed Halsey/Wynyard has plenty of public viewing including a bunch of already upgraded waterfront with existing bars/restaurants, landscaping & parks.
  5. Hooray! Youtube channel is still dead though https://www.youtube.com/user/AmericasCup
  6. AC36 Auckland NZ

    Along the North Wharf waterfront between Halsey & Wynyard. Its a recent upgrade & busy despite absence of anything like the AC. From article posted in other thread Lot18 is the area where current ETNZ base is, West side of Beaumont St in your pic above. There is clearly room for at least 2 bases there & I have wondered at the absence of mention of that previously. Water access for the AC boats is very different but physically you can easily walk from Halsey to there. A big part of the overall plan of post AC waterfront upgrades has been creating a major pedestrian axis from West side of Wynyard (Silo park just North of current ETNZ base) through North Wharf, Karanga plaza (South end of Halsey), across to Te Whero & then along Quay St across past Maritime Museum, Princes wharf, Ferry building & across past Captain Cook Wharf infront of Britomart (rail & bus station).
  7. AC36 Auckland NZ

    The dashed bits on those concepts are Event areas like for Media Center, big screens etc.
  8. AC36 Auckland NZ

    Breakwaters. It would be a big effort/expense to make breakwater to shelter the full length of Wynyard (basically a big Halsey exension would be needed). By having some bases in the existing basin they only need to make a smaller basin between Halsey & Wynyard
  9. AC36 Auckland NZ

    The idea that Auckland doesn't want to get it done is truly ludicrous. The question is what to do & who pays for it.
  10. AC36 Auckland NZ

    I think RG needs to think about what the Halsey new basin would actually look like from Te Whero & North Wharf. The answer is 'pretty shitty'. Bases on Wynyard will actually look so much better since they will partially block the current ugly view of tanks from North Wharf & Halsey.
  11. AC36 - The Venue

    Yep said that previous page Here's what a smaller 6 team Halsey Wynyard might be like
  12. AC36 - The Venue

    Here's another thing why I'm not at all thrilled about the Halsey option: As a spectator you basically have no vision of the bases. All the public gets to see is the backs of bases & narrow view across from Te Whero, maybe limited views from end of Hobson or between S1 & S2 but a pretty good chance of barriers/other obstruction. To watch/support boats leaving dock you'd have to go out to Princes' or Queens' wharf. Compare with HHW All the bases have good public viewing angles from Te Whero/North Wharf except S4 & maybe S8. Edit: also in terms of price Halsey extension needs to be a solid fill wharf to be a breakwater, the HHW smaller Halsey extension & Wynyard work can be piled (presumably cheaper?) since it doesn't need to breakwater.
  13. AC36 Auckland NZ

    Exerpt from upcoming Goff speech
  14. AC36 - The Venue

    Expedited yes I hope so. For funding AC infrastructure certainly not. Its explicitly to help fund transport projects.
  15. AC36 - The Venue

    This article was generally good but had some really odd opinion stuff, like the author seems unaware of the existence of the Maritime Museum or if he knows it exists, probably hasn't actually been inside. Cruise ships get the best wharves because there are thousands of wealthy tourists you want to impress & get to spend their $$$. Dumping them out on a shitty cargo wharf ain't a good first impression, just like you unload A380s into a nice International Terminal rather than shuffle them through a freight hangar. On the contrary, you want an option that can be scaled up/down depending on how many Teams actually enter. If you go for the big Halsey extension and only 4 teams turn up you still need to build the whole expensive basin. The Halsey/Hobson/Wynyard concept allows bits not to be built/completed & even the Wynyard part to be scaled up. I think this is actually my preferred option now.