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      Abbreviated rules   07/28/2017

      Underdawg did an excellent job of explaining the rules.  Here's the simplified version: Don't insinuate Pedo.  Warning and or timeout for a first offense.  PermaFlick for any subsequent offenses Don't out members.  See above for penalties.  Caveat:  if you have ever used your own real name or personal information here on the forums since, like, ever - it doesn't count and you are fair game. If you see spam posts, report it to the mods.  We do not hang out in every thread 24/7 If you see any of the above, report it to the mods by hitting the Report button in the offending post.   We do not take action for foul language, off-subject content, or abusive behavior unless it escalates to persistent stalking.  There may be times that we might warn someone or flick someone for something particularly egregious.  There is no standard, we will know it when we see it.  If you continually report things that do not fall into rules #1 or 2 above, you may very well get a timeout yourself for annoying the Mods with repeated whining.  Use your best judgement. Warnings, timeouts, suspensions and flicks are arbitrary and capricious.  Deal with it.  Welcome to anarchy.   If you are a newbie, there are unwritten rules to adhere to.  They will be explained to you soon enough.  


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  1. Zeppelin's Stairway to Heaven...

    The bottom line is this. If Led Zep wins it is a huge setback for those who create. While Spirit may not have written StH they made a significant contribution to its creation. While it may not have been overt, they did provide the creative inspiration, along with the specific riff that lead to StH being that mega-hit for Led Zeppelin. Plant and Page are fools to object and allowing this to go to court. All to protect some fragile egos. Pay Spirit and treat them fairly or risk being labeled the douches they are being. Spirit was in no position to sue Led Zep. If you want to argue about significant contributions, fine, but then Spirit would need to be sued too. A little research on the internet and youtube will reveal that there is music that predates Taurus that sounds more like Taurus than Taurus sounds like StH. The lawyers and expert witnesses made that point clearly it seems. I'm glad the jury got it right. Led Zep has lifted stuff before but did not lift this one from Taurus. See: Or: And perhaps the original from the 1600s (Giovanni Battista Granata, at about 30 secs.): So I think the Granata estate should sue the Randy California "Sprit" estate, and all the other estates, and Led Zep...
  2. Zeppelin's Stairway to Heaven...

    They are just using the same chord (mainly, but Paige then switches chords and that is important because the melody is much nicer). Stairway is obviously different. And anyway, the whole song builds up to the final part which really makes that song. There is a reason very few know about Taurus. To say that they stole it is absurd. Now we could discuss other Ledzep songs where writing credits should have been given in the first place but were not (they did give credit later). But again, what they made out of the original was awesome. Awesome is what made them rich. It's like somebody drew a bird and then Picasso comes along and also draws a bird, sales his bird for 2 million dollars, then you claim credit. Not a chance. Not in the same league. If you want to discuss stealing, then we can talk about Chuck Berry. That guy was robbed. Spirit was not.
  3. Honey Badger Anarchy

    So the badger escapes... Many times. How do you catch it and put him back in his prison every time? These things are mean mofos...
  4. never fuckin' mind

    Negative Ghost Rider, the pattern is full.
  5. J/111 Goes Sailing...

    Any thoughts on the boat's potential to develop an OD fleet on the GLs? Will 105 owners want to move to a 111? Seems a bit expensive for an OD fleet to take off...
  6. Lake Ontario Anarchy

    I can't find results for the Hood anywhere either. Anyone? Me neither... They're posted now at Susan Hood Results That was one of the best Susan Hood races in recent memory. Enough wind and rain to keep it interesting with one hell of a lightning show. Never thought I'd have fun flying a chute in a lightning storm in the middle of the night...
  7. Lake Ontario Anarchy

    The windward-leeward format is not the best place to try racing for the first time. Going downwind with the chute up, you have to worry about people coming upwind etc. This did not happen much in the days of triangles. The racing scene I remember from the late 70s/80s was more social, more recreational than it is now. I suggest that this young fellow consider doing some of the distance races on Lake Ontario, in particular, the short-handed series. The starts are more relaxed, you get to race on all points of sail, and the atmosphere is much closer to what I recall from my youth. There is a PCYC-Youngstown race coming up I believe. I encourage this young guy to give it another try. I think his experience will be completely different.
  8. Lake Ontario Anarchy

    I can't find results for the Hood anywhere either. Anyone? Me neither...
  9. BMW

    #1 I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue #2 The winches were supposed to be powered by a little John Deer but BMW insisted we use their F1 engine... #3 Don't worry guys, everything is okay: the top batten is not broken afterall
  10. Lake Ontario Anarchy

    Cider ate them?