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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.


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    West Michigan
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    S2 9.1 meter, Club420, Lasers, Optis
  1. The WMYSA dates on that race schedule are not correct. They are as follows: June 30 at MBYC July 14 at Spring Lake July 28 at White Lake Aug 11 at MYC Also, the MYC Ulrich Junior regatta date has not been set - but it is likely to be Aug 19 in conjunction with the Harbor Hospice event. Please update the schedule to reflect those corrections. Thanks!
  2. I've also done all this on my S2 9.1. Every hole recored and resealed. My boat is now dry as a bone. Working from below if possible greatly reduces the complexity of the task. Doing that also makes this a great opportunity to replace the headliner fabric (often quite stained on boats of this age). You can easily obtain the OEM headliner fabric from many RV fabric supply sources. There also are tons of helpful threads and comments regarding this process on both the S2 7.9 and S2 9.1 web sites.
  3. Agreed re the weight thing being the primary issue here. My point was simply that much of the rigidity (in general) found in the RRS can be originally linked back to liability (or covering everyone's asses) - in that if NORs andSIs don't properly apply the RRS, then Gowry and potentially other insurance coverages may not apply. That's the world I live in as a PRO. Hence my commentary from a broader perspective. I do think there is some room to accommodate the weight issue here, but clearly there are some peripheral "rules" and outlying organizations that will have to bend a bit to enable modifying the SIs in a way that retains the intent of the RRS...
  4. As someone who I know possesses above average knowledge of insurance, Glenn, you are intimately familiar with why all this complexity exists: liability and a litigious society. I very much share your view that it should be simpler and easier to engage in the sport - but all of us (and especially me as a Certified Race Officer) have been forced to "play the game by the rules" if we want to avoid risking our net worth and financial existence every time we leave the dock. It is my humble opinion that society (and our sport) started down this slippery slope when greed and personal gain eclipsed "doing the right thing" for the "good of the collective whole". Unless societal attitudes change, I'm afraid we are stuck in a world where legal liabilities will influence everything we do - including those activities we'd like to view as "fun". (sigh)
  5. I got the PSA email too. I clicked the PreOrder link and the price is $990 !!!!!!! I couldn't find any monetary exchange rate info - but if that is in USD, that's a freaking ridiculous price! I can buy 4-5 Intensity "practice" sails for the same money and have plenty of fun on my local pond. And… given the breathtaking absence of a "local dealer" in my part of the world, I didn't bother to inquire about shipping the damn thing half way around the globe from PSA down under. Makes a guy wonder how much of that $990 is going into ILCA's slush fund… Suffice to say, the 3 Lasers in our household won't be jumping on the new sail band wagon.
  6. Why not simply slide the 7.9 into the horse trailer? Sure would keep the yacht clean when driving snow covered roads to head south in the winter. By the looks of this picture, you might even be able to fit the mast inside that trailer?
  7. The boat closest to you is an S2 10.3 meter called "Abbie Normal". The boat "Tenacity" with the blue and green graphics is an S2 9.1 Meter. I know both owners and have contact info for both. Send me a PM if you want contact info.
  8. It would simply be nice if water levels go up enough that we don't have to dredge the MYC marina yet another time this year….
  9. Great shot! I was the PRO for this regatta and my kids were both skippering boats. Great event with two flights of 21 Club 420s each and 7 Lasers on the water. Props to the Spring Lake Sailing Team for serving up an amazing thanksgiving style meal as part of the event. Quite possibly the biggest turkey leg I've ever eaten. I felt like Fred Flintstone. Thanks for the photo!
  10. A follow-up to my query above regarding Chicago river bridges. Here is a link to a documentary recently produced about the bridges in Chicago. The short trailer on the web site reveals some interesting facts I did not know. http://chicagodrawbridges.com/Home_Page.php
  11. Thanks for the river feedback!!! Your suggestions give me something to search on Google Earth.
  12. Looking for some local knowledge from the Chicago crowd: My 14 year old son is fascinated by trains and the various swing and lift bridges that carry trains over rivers, etc. We're contemplating doing a Chicago "river tour" on our 18ft center console to get a closer look at bridges going over the rivers & channels in the Chicago area. Where should we consider going? Are there any navigational challenges we should be mindful of? Where would be a good place to launch our boat? Any and all local knowledge would be greatly appreciated!
  13. + 1,000,000,000,000
  14. so what does this mean? (see link below) Appears to me that the trademark was somehow denied? http://trademarks.justia.com/857/79/kirby-torch-85779037.html
  15. BIG +1 regarding the MYC Junior Sailing Fundraiser this weekend (March 23) at Dockers in Muskegon !!!!! I have a purchase agreement in hand to buy 3 more Optis for the program. Just need your support to sign it and seal the deal! In other news, Musketucky's own Andy B and his ice boat made the top of today's Scuttlebu** daily news: http://email.sailingscuttlebutt.com/t/ViewEmail/j/1B1EBB3457441F76/5ED73CC6C2FA6469C67FD2F38AC4859C