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  1. j/109 whisker pole

    This was done with success on a J109 I know well. Good solution for mid-week non-spin racing.
  2. I'm not yelling

    Have you had your hearing tested? No insults intended... Having sailed with someone with a profound hearing loss developed later in life, I can attest to the painful irony of lines like "I'M NOT YELLING." (Of course, to you it sounds that way.) Maybe this doesn't apply to you, and the comments in this thread about leadership, practice, and patience are all that matter. Otherwise, it might be worth considering the tone and volume of what comes out from between your ears.
  3. Which factors do make us attend a race event?

    For lack of a better term, "OA & RC reputation." I.e. are the NOR and sailing instructions well-defined for the event? I'm not suggesting that every event, including casual beer can stuff, has to have international caliber event management. I am suggesting that the level of organization and communication from those in charge needs to match the goals of the event. This requirement is proportional to the amount of time/effort/money most of the participants will put into it. There's nothing worse than having your weekend coordinated like the Gong Show.
  4. Lobster Run is gone due to a large logistical effort and perpetually low interest. Unfortunate. Seemed like it had potential. Definitely interested in this topic... know 6 other guys who are as well... we spent Saturday bobbing around SE of the Vineyard thinking about the 2018 schedule. I can attest to the Beringer Bowl as a fun event. Personally, I wish they sent you back to Marblehead in the same race instead of ending in Ptown as I understand was once done. I get the intent; just my preference. Sshow Bob- holler if you get traction on a MA to ME race. I'm not a decision-maker, but happy to offer input and know that my skipper is thinking these thoughts.
  5. Edgartown Race Week

    MV RTI can be a fantastic race, no doubt. The Vineyard is beautiful, and Edgartown is a gem. We can't hold EYC responsible for the weather, but we can their race management. It seems they had lots of options to make something of an obviously questionable forecast today. It also seems like they ignored most of those options in favor of a 5-hour drifting competition and a 2.5-hour motor back around the island. Unfortunate. Probably a disappointment to many.
  6. Right, b/c ignorance is generation-specific. I don't imagine parents of the "Me Generation" found them very patient either... I accept this as part of the problem. It is not the whole problem.
  7. RANT race compromised by party

    Event type, geography, and meteorology are all important factors here... I raced dinghies and small keelboats on a Southeast lake for a few years; almost always around the cans... I got into it a few times with fleet captains about starting races midday, bobbing until 3pm, and heading for the club porch when the temps were cooler and the breeze was on. Although a 3-6pm series could have worked there, it probably wouldn't work for your coastal distance race. (Was the party well attended?) Whatever, I voted by moving back to NE. We all can vote with our 2017 race entries.
  8. going under

    I swear, it'll plane in 15 knots, just like a...
  9. J/109 Symmetric Spinnaker Gear

    Interesting discussion... I'll bite... If you rigged a J109 for sym kites, how would you manage in the pit and cockpit for a sym peel? Are you going to add winches/clutches, or just plan on bare-headed sail changes? I'm on a New England J109. We're not pro's but put up some solid results, and we're very well-practiced with our peels between A2 and A3. Most of our racing is coastal distance, not W/L. The boat has a standard OD setup: 8 clutches and 2 self-tailing cabin tops. One tack clutch means the second tack line is on the stbd primary. We manage well, but we're chronically short on winch space in the corners. In our setup, we use a primary for the tackline about half the time. With a sym, you're using that all the time, and then adding a second guy as well. And what about a foreguy? You can't tell me that you'll keep the pole down with twings... Interesting convo though...
  10. Downsizing again

    M24 is a fantastic boat... Crewed on one for 7 years, nothing bad to say. Love it. I obviously don't know your wife. My amazing wife loves to sail but will have nothing to do with racing. Her choice completely. She has also spent a fair bit of time in the photo boat watching M24 one design racing. I'll share my experience only... an M24 is a "No f*cking way" boat in my household. Here's the rubric of her willingness to get onboard: "Wow!" - our Moorings charter in the BVI "Yes" - probably a wood boat, usually my father's in coastal Maine "Really, again?" - I used to race Lightnings. "No" - anything PHRF under 80 if the kite is onboard. "No f*cking way" - sporties, M24, etc "Silence" - anything with a trap or that foils. Best of luck to you, sir. Interesting thread.
  11. Distance Racing in New England

    Didn't realize a final decision had been made. Not surprising, but disappointing nonetheless.
  12. Distance Racing in New England

    Not awesome attendance in years past. TBD for 16 as I understand. You're thinking of the Corinthian Ocean Race, formerly the "Lobster Run." I was planning to do it in 2016 but the website is down and the Corinthians haven't responded to email inquiries about the race. I think it might be done. Too bad - 350 miles or so from Watch Hill Passage, out to Nantucket Shoals, take a left and head to Booth Bay.
  13. Coolboats to admire

    Boothbay Harbor One Design, Christmas Cove One Design, Hodgdon 21, and Great Lakes 21 are all derivations of the "Boothbay 20s" designed by Geerd Hendel. (I'm no expert, but my folks have a BHOD.)
  14. Wow.. wooden gaffer keelboat with a trap... very cool!
  15. There might still be a fleet of Y-Flyers in inland South Carolina. They were popular all over the Southeast in the 60s and early 70s. Yes- there were a few Y Fliers at Western Carolina Sailing Club when I was there last in 2010. None were active though. Since you mention South Carolina, we should include the Sea Island One Design. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_Island_One-Design