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  1. ......another ferro-cement boat thread

    Don't say we didn't warn you.
  2. ......another ferro-cement boat thread

    I wouldn't touch it. Sorry in advance for all the negativity below. Why do you need something so big to live aboard? 25k can go pretty far in fiberglass these days if you are not that hung up on sailing performance, which you clearly are not. And what you buy might not immediately become a huge liability, like this likely will. But if we can't dissuade you, do not pay more than half of the asking price. This person is dying to get rid of it, as you likely will be soon.
  3. Two sailors and dogs rescued after 5 months

    "Accomplished"? By what standard?
  4. Two sailors and dogs rescued after 5 months

    Sure it isn't rust?
  5. Two sailors and dogs rescued after 5 months

    And when Tasha actually started to talk the other one shut her up pretty quickly saying, "let's not go there."
  6. Two sailors and dogs rescued after 5 months

    Nothing worked except the batteries on that handheld GPS. Good for five months of use.
  7. Two sailors and dogs rescued after 5 months

    Oh, and didn't she say they met the force 11 their first night? I guess she didn't have time to look at her I-Phone or the local news for a weather report before setting off.
  8. Two sailors and dogs rescued after 5 months

    Kinda odd too that nobody seemed to notice they were missing for 5 months. No concerned mom, cousin or sister?
  9. Two sailors and dogs rescued after 5 months

    It's so frikkin ridiculous. I guess this was the plan all along.
  10. Two sailors and dogs rescued after 5 months

    Listened to the long phone interview. I don't want to be harsh, but they are so damn proud of themselves. For what? Maybe it's just the euphoria of being rescued, but the self-congratulatory tone is a bit much to take. The Appel one who doesn't stop talking admitted that she had no idea what she was doing and the other woman had never even sailed before they started their "voyage." The talkative one says that when her friends told her she was crazy she said it's okay, the US Navy can always rescue me. Blue water sailing is all about preparation, fixing things and improvising. With all that time they couldn't jury rig some kind of sail to get them moving?
  11. Two sailors and dogs rescued after 5 months

    I like the channel 2 news reporter who says, "clearly you are very experienced" and "you clearly were as well-prepared as you could be".
  12. Two sailors and dogs rescued after 5 months

    I like the part where she talks about how she sailed in the wrong direction for a full day.
  13. Two sailors and dogs rescued after 5 months

    They really seem to think they accomplished something. Even boastful, I would say.
  14. Blue water performance cruiser - do they exist?

    I know some folks have set up cutter rigs and you don't have to go huge with the jib if you're not racing. My wife and I cruised with a 130 on a roller on our S&S 41 and didn't find it too burdensome. That pole, however, was heavy. Would want to swap the aluminum for something lighter.