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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.

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  1. and try pointing with no battens.
  2. Looks to be about 40', I don't recognize the model. The swept spreaders suggest a Hunter, but? Backstay suggests not a Hunter.
  3. Billy Mac's.
  4. Absolutely. Highly recommended.
  5. IDK if they had a rudder failure...unable to tell from videos. But with only a luffing jib they weren't going to be able to gain ground to windward even if rudder was ok. They didn't have enough forward speed to make rudder effective. Jib was only increasing the sideways drift.You are probably right. Hm, wonder if they thought "fuck, SA is going to have a field day when they see this"...they probably were thinking "fuck. Oh fuck."Looks like they were trying to get something going until the very end. Might have been safer to abandon the boat and jump into water a bit earlier. Tough call to make....but I think being in the water is preferable to being aboard a boat crashing into a concrete pier. Was wondering why they couldn't get that jib in and get something out of it.
  6. I would go dock for sure unless you're trying to go cheap. But one year I got stuck on the inside and was one of the last boats out and didn't have a lot of time to spare at the start.
  7. PHRF likely was around before most of the people bitching about their ratings bought their boats. Sometimes I wonder why people don't do a bit more research about whether their boats have a decent rating before they buy their boats if they are going to race in a PHRF fleet.
  8. Love the videos. Looks very manageable.
  9. We recently sold our heavy old 41 footer. When my 20 year old son couldn't make it, though, we often had to relieve each other grinding in that number 1. But once it was in it kicked ass to wind.
  10. Props to John Burnham, Reed Baer and team Grace for winning another Nationals, this time with a borrowed boat, in Cali, on a tiebreaker. Good going guys!
  11. You do know that a 36.7 won the Newport/Bermuda race a few year ago, right? They had a pretty active sail back to NY due to some severe weather. A 36.7 also did quite well double-handed in a recent 'round Britain race while several bigger more expensive boats dropped out due to equipment damage. They are stout little fuckers and will take you where you need with proper preparation, maintenance and prudent seamanship as many other production boats will. I drive a Ford. I can't afford a Mercedes. The Ford gets me where I need to go reliably just like my 36.7. The 36.7 is a good PHRF racer as well.
  12. The moral of this story (which is don't hit the bottom) applies to all boats.
  13. Pretty close. As to the gear sizing etc. - everything is upgradeable when ordering - lead keels are a big upcharge, winches can be upsized etc. The local Jenny dealer automatically replaced all the manual heads with electrics in everything over 40'. All you have to do is pay for it. They size things "adequate" to get a competitive advertised price - very much the same as all those auto manufacturers used to do with their thousand page options list. I can remember a column in an auto mag BITD where the guy demonstrated that GM could build literally millions of Camaros with no two exactly alike. You could get a stripped 6 cyl. model for $2200 up to a ZL1 for $9500 (twice the price of a Corvette). Many, if not all the production boats are not unlike that - people just aren't willing to pay $75K more on a 40' to get all that better stuff. A couple of years ago I watched a guy restore an old 32' First that had gone on the rocks (and I do mean rocks). Gouged up the hull pretty well, bent the stanchions & pulpits etc. but no structural damage, no bent keel, no bent rudder etc. Still, it was totaled by the insurance and he got it for scrap price. Fixed it himself and made about 20 grand on resale. I'd take an early 80's First 42 in a heartbeat. A local broker (Copeland) and his family sailed all the way around on a First 38 with no problem. I raced on a First 42 this weekend. Sturdy, fast, well-built -- no complaints. But I wouldn't touch an Oceanis with a ten foot pole.
  14. Depends, Not if it needs $100,000 new deck and she is a little thin on sail inventory. Between Brexit fears and the exchange rates there are a shitload of used Swans ( and similar luxury items) under contract now at bargain basement prices in Europe and the values are still falling. (edit. sorry see 'new teak decks 2000' (16 years old) so still some life in them. It comes down to Caca's budget. A Swan 57 is a lot of boat to handle if double-handing most of the time Guys, I am good friends with the owner of Boontasa. Hes a good guy and the boat is in GREAT shape. Well worth asking price Didn't want this to read like an ad so I PM'd you my favorite Swan broker's number who knows all of the models intimately and can help you with this stuff if you are interested. you referring to KY? No but I like him too. Alan Baines at Berthon helped me buy and sell my Swan and I would recommend him highly. Don't know Keith as well but I have a favorable impression.