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  1. we didn't pay that much and we added a lot of stuff. Trailer, auto pilot, solar panels, shore power, lazy jack sort of thing, jib cover, deck cover, head, outboard bracket, gear bags, maybe forgetting something. Fun boat. We really like ours.
  2. Yeah, we still have loads to learn. Upwind we seem to be missing something. Speed isn't high or consistent. The off the wind sleigh ride was very fun though. Had Hobbes802 on the helm while I trimmed. Just blasted along. Definitely need the reacher and a J2 for more gears. Double digit off the wind speeds are a lot of fun on this boat.
  3. it was full. Emptied it
  4. Svain99 i may be interested. DM me info please.
  5. That looks pretty cool Doug. Can't wait to see the real thing
  6. During that great post EC breakfast I was asked what boat I had used for my first EC. I replied a Vanguard Nomad, to which Meade replied something like, "always thought that was a terrible boat for the EC". Or something like that, that's how I remember it anyway. I still laugh a bit every time I replay it in my mind. I never took offense, just sort of thought, "Oh, should have chosen better". Interestingly we are working that boat up for the 2018 EC.....
  7. In Burlington Bay here in Burlington VT we have a 32 foot sailboat that sunk 2 years ago. The mast is still in place and the tip is between 7 and 0 feet from the surface depending on water levels. Right now it is 3 feet below the surface. There is currently no marker on the mast. It is located in a bay that gets heavy cruiser traffic on weekends. The CG station is less than one mile away. The CG, local and state police and even out of state police routinely dive on it for training. They have made no attempt at raising the boat, or to my knowledge, removing the mast. There has been no "notice to mariners" to my knowledge. They seem to be waiting for the inevitable.....
  8. So recently I got into a FB group argument about weight aloft (i know, stupid me). A guy posted about removing his mast and keel from his sailboat to make a power cruiser. I commented about roll. To which some guy commented that if the mast had been left it would roll less..... He was being a little cheeky. What he meant was that it would roll less, once the mast contacted the water. But a great debate started about how masts, particularly heavy ones, dampen roll. It is now to the point where people are arguing that any weight aloft reduces roll, no mater how heavy, and that weight aloft is good for stability. Now I am no physics major and maybe they have a point strictly about roll... But there is a reason that Carbon masts, and lightweight lines and all that exists. If weight aloft was good, wouldn't we all have steel masts or worse? Weight aloft on a pole might look good on paper but in real world sailing a lot of time, energy, and money has been spent to make masts lighter. Your thoughts?
  9. Good to see this thread getting some owners involved! To answer Crash's question above we did get the spin up. I only have the big spinnaker. We pulled it out of the plastic bag about two hours before the race. We saw 12.4 knots off the wind. Possibly could have gone faster if we had moved aft. We rarely have to get aft on the Viper and we were sort of stuck in that mode of thinking. Right now we have 20 on the uppers and 10 on the lowers with 15 on the fore stay. We got these numbers from the Seascape USA rep. Still feels light to me. Any help here would be great. Is the owners manual online? We didn't get a print version with the boat. I didn't know there was a smaller jib offered, only have 1. I did know that there was a smaller spin but didn't order it with the boat. Will probably add it, possibly this winter. Went for another sail yesterday. Had Streetwise with us working on some systems and instrument brackets. Winds were 8-12 and pretty flat water. Upwind we were playing the main more than we previously had been to keep the boat tracking better. Upwind boat speed was high 5's to mid 6's. Off the wind we experimented with keeping the jib up to see if we gained anything. From our very informal test we did seem to get a little more speed with the jib up in those conditions. Made jibing easier too. Did a few blow through jibes, still working on timing. This was only the third time we had the spin up so we still have lots to learn. Off wind speeds were high 7's to mid 8's. We had one puff get us to 9+ knots. My son was on the tiller most of the time, he doesn't have a lot of experience. Trying to get him as much tiller time as we can. Would love to see other owners pictures of their instrument set up as well as some of the control lines. The way our Cunningham was set up by the rep. didn't work. The line was too short to go through the whole purchase system. We have swapped in a different line but I think the way it is setup may not be correct, the top block of the purchase is right under the foot of the sail. Seems too high. We tried a few changes but didn't find an obvious solution yet.
  10. Just found out Meade Gougeon has passed away. I met him a few times during my Everglades Challenges. One of my fondest memories from sailing was sitting at breakfast after the '14 EC with Meade, Randy Smyth and a few other titans of the tribe. I mostly just sat and listened to them all talk as I sipped my coffee, content to soak up a tiny piece of their knowledge and skill. I didn't know him well but I will miss him at the next Watertribe event I attend. He was a really great person.
  11. We went upwind in 20-28 in the race. Had to reef and even then was very overpowered. With that short of a waterline it wasn't particularly speedy. Lake Champlain chop is usually pretty short and steep. Kinda hobby horsing along. We had a 20 mile fetch to deal with. Last night the breeze kicked up on our way to our anchorage, right on the nose. 15-18 knots and my daughter hates healing. The jib has loads of power, so you sort of sail to that. We dumped the main to keep her happy. Reefing would have balanced the boat better. Supposedly rates 102 phrf but I am not sure about that. Reaching in 12 knots we saw 7.6 knots just j&m. It handles a lot like a big boat. Compared to the Viper I usually race it feels slow and huge, you need the winches. But looking at relative speeds we aren't too far off. It is definitely a "little big boat", whereas the Viper is a "big dinghy". It sort of feels like the J88 I sometimes crew on. Also, it likes to heal, hull shape asks for it
  12. Got our boat 2 weeks ago. Working it up to speed. Have raced it once in 20+ knots. Hit 12.4 knots with the kite up (first time flying it too). Have sailed it several times including an overnight last night with our kids. Very powered up. Reefed it going upwind in the race, still loads of power. Still figuring it all out. So far we are liking it.
  13. The one on Lake Champlain is still doing well locally. Very fun to sail. His travel plans have been cut back though.
  14. Have to choose word wisely here as I am a USSailing level 2 instructor. This is a very sad tragedy, for the parents, instructor, club, and all of us. I am 42 years old. Father of 2. I have a 12 and 13 year old. I think I look at the job of teaching sailing a little differently than an 18 year old. This is a tragic accident. Spoke to a fellow instructor at a regatta today who knows the instructor involved. I don't know him/her. From the description it sounds like he/she was a good, knowledgeable instructor and sailor. Other than that I have nothing, so I won't add further. Prop guards would help but aren't a perfect solution. However most club programs don't have them. My guess is cost. Teaching sailing is a young persons pursuit for the most part. Why? Money. Cheap labor. So if programs are watching costs and paying low this breeds an environment that exposes this sort of possible accident. Solution? No idea. The current state of sailing instruction in this country has worked for a long time with generally good results. Sailing is dangerous. No more or less than other youth activities, but it has unique challenges.
  15. I guess I admire that it is very clean and well cared for. The frowning face on the transom cracked me up