ZeroTheHero

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    west coast of New England
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  1. ZeroTheHero

    Mocking Ads on Craigslist

    that winch by the sheet bag must be fun to trim
  2. ZeroTheHero

    Everglades Challenge 2020

    I bet the speeds are higher for Chaos and SewSew. The course is a bit less than 300 miles. If you can take all the shortest routes it can be as low as 260 miles. Of course going around Florida Bay adds miles and brings it closer to 300.
  3. ZeroTheHero

    Everglades Challenge 2020

    Glad to see that article listed on the previous page here. Clears up some things. Looking at the track again I see MisterMoons hypothesis becoming more clear. I agree with him and DonKeyHoTey, both of whom I have finished an EC with. BravoBravo kudos to you for being concerned and making that known to race management. I did the same, as I have said. I can not speak for everyone involved but I am always glad to know people are watching the tracker and care enough to make a call to a friend involve. There are pretty clear guidelines about using the spot and I think many of us who have used a spot in this event were really puzzled by the ok signals. That is a "make no mistake I am just fine" signal that we all know to mean just that. Many of us following along were puzzled by this oks, but there they were. It makes me very sad that this has happened. One possible positive note, I was planning on going solo in class 4 next year but that idea is gone now. Far too much risk for me. Has anyone really looked at Chaos and Sewsew's track? Man were they hauling! They went from Sanibel to Marco in about 3 hours! That has always taken me the better part of a day.
  4. ZeroTheHero

    Everglades Challenge 2020

    I don't think anyone really knows what happened to him. On the Watertribe site there is a tracker where you can select a participant and see their track with time stamps. Since the tracker hasn't been cleaned you can still see Sailorman's track and where things start to look very concerning.
  5. ZeroTheHero

    Everglades Challenge 2020

    I have talked to numerous people directly. People who were in KL, sailing in the event, helping to organize and run it. talked to them on the phone.
  6. ZeroTheHero

    Everglades Challenge 2020

    Where are you getting that info from?
  7. ZeroTheHero

    Everglades Challenge 2020

    Man, the usual SA shit fight ensues. Now I remember why I almost never come on here anymore. BravoBravo from what I am told you are pretty closely connected to a participant or two in this race. I see your point, clearly. I understand your concerns and I share some if them. However this "creed" shit is just calling names and picking fights. NYBOZO1, I don't really get what you mean by your statement. Watertribe folks are a pretty diverse bunch. We have world champs, national champs, weekend warriors, builders, designers, adventure racers, etc. Ages are all over the place but generally older. Some folks have sailed across oceans, paddled the Yukon, done the R2AK, etc. Almost all I have met were down to earth, humble, capable sailors and paddlers. Haven't met too many with big egos or bravado. It seems to me that some here just want to place blame somewhere and shit talk an event and organization that has been around for 20 years doing it's thing. Fact is none of us know what happened out there. So it's all just arguing for the sake of arguing. Since I know someone will ask, I've finished 5 Everglades Challenges.
  8. ZeroTheHero

    Everglades Challenge 2020

    no, I couldn't remember what boat they were in that year. Dawnpatrol or the EC22
  9. ZeroTheHero

    Everglades Challenge 2020

    The offset CB puts it in the wall of the cockpit seat instead of the middle. Not great for performance sailing but it opens up the cockpit a bunch and makes the boat more livable. I did the '16 EC in the open version. The Mk I. Stable, roomy, comfortable. Performance isn't great compared to racing dinghies if that is what you are used to. Compared to a West Wight Potter its a performance boat. The combination of the off set CB and split sail plan hurt upwind performance. Tacking angle are very broad. That said most of the EC is usually a reach so they do well. Not sure what the 20 and 22 foot versions have for a CB position. The bigger boats move really well and one holds 3rd place overall for class 4 with a time of 1 day 23 hours and 57 minutes.
  10. ZeroTheHero

    Everglades Challenge 2020

    I can not accurately comment on timing as I have no direct knowledge. In hind sight it all is so clear, but at the time? I know I was confused. Didn't seem like a good place to be and all but, there were all the "ok" signals. Once those went quiet I was alarmed, but things like that have happened before. And not a fault of the tracker (which needs to be replaced)
  11. ZeroTheHero

    Everglades Challenge 2020

    well put. DKHT we should catch up sometime. A lot to talk about
  12. ZeroTheHero

    Everglades Challenge 2020

    It has been an incredibly long and sad day to be a Tribe member today. Not good news, which you all already know. Like BravoBravo I had been glued to the tracker as Sailorman wandered farther and farther off the coast. I messaged friends and people involved. I was told that the situation was being monitored and then that action was being taken. I can not and will not speculate about what happened when and with whom as I am in VT and only know what I was able to verify. I have watched all the FB discussions devolve and not add anything helpful. It's sad. I feel for the family of the sailor involved and to all who will be affected far more than me. It is a terrible loss. When I became interested in Watertribe I fully understood what I was getting into. I sought adventure and WT seemed like a place I could get it on a dime. I always wanted to follow in my father and grandfather's footsteps but it wasn't to be. When they first crossed the Atlantic with a sextant and a compass, no one had their back. They were on their own. Ocean races like that are out of my budget so I looked smaller. Sailing is risky and small boat distance sailing is even more so. I have always appreciated that aspect of the Tribe and have never deluded myself otherwise. In "14 DonKeyHoTey and I were 12 miles out at one point, at night, off of Shark River with little sleep and a wet boat. It was big risk and looking back I have not opted to take it again. But I always I always think back on the experience positively. In 2016 Mistermoon and I tacked to weather inside the Keys 28 miles in 20-30 knots in a Core Sound 17 Mk I. We bailed constantly. It was some of the most miserable sailing I have ever done. I still enjoy the memory. In "17 doing the Wilderness Waterway with my wife was some of the hardest physical I have ever done, and in 2018 my son and I almost capsized, again off of Shark River. Is WT perfect? No. Can it improve? Absolutely. Should it? Yes. These events are dangerous. So is walking in NYC, flying, driving. I have always said the drive from VT to FL for the EC is probably the most risky part of it all. That isn't to minimize what has happened. I know everyone feels strongly about what should be done. I'll contribute in the right place and time. I am a better sailor because of my experiences through Water Tribe. I am aware of the risks now more than ever. I hope that isn't lost
  13. ZeroTheHero

    Everglades Challenge 2020

    Been there, done that. Water, lots of water. Change clothing, get out of the sun. Sleep! Then make a plan.
  14. ZeroTheHero

    Everglades Challenge 2020

    nothing yet. tried a few back channels I have but so far no info. Last tracking point was about 7:30 this morning. Those of us on the couch this year are collectively holding our breath.
  15. ZeroTheHero

    Everglades Challenge 2020

    It is a Core Sound 17 Mk III so at least it has shelter. Not totally open like a Mk I