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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.


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  1. Does he use a mouse instead of a trackball ? anytime I have a mouse at the nav station it flys off at every bounce or heel. Can't tell if that is a trackball
  2. There were 3 or 4 in Astoria, Oregon. last time I was there.
  3. The part I never understood with GB was continually ditching developed models to start new ones long before the life cycle of that model was at an end. Yes, you need to keep pressing forward, but 60’, 62’, 66’, ’65 in just a few years. Tooling, etc costs are not inexpensive to say the least and retooling every few years seemed to be more like running a custom build business at a series built price. Not to mention all the QA issues and teething problems with new models. I also (as someone who generally sails on fast dinghies) don't get the foiling cruising cat/daysailer thing. Not a lot of people out there for that market, to say the least. +1 ie. Look at the recent success of refit programs (Tribe, ExtremeH20, Phaedo) they should have stuck to the 66.
  4. Do you have an accumulator tank, they even out the surge.
  5. Estar, you're one of the more knowledgeable contributors in these forums. I'll try to vouch for a few of the claims made by him. He's done 4 N/S trips with us as delivery crew, he's skippered or relief skippered 5 different GB's, captained one trans-Atlantic, and has done N/S deliveries on at least 2 other GBs. The boats are generally busy and well used. We averaged over 10k miles a year, every year. Other than a brief stint on a monohull (we all make mistakes) he's been on GBs since I met him 6 yrs ago. His 30k mile claim is legit, if not conservative. As for quoted speeds, it's not abnormal to see lots of 20+ but still have low averages. We'll top 20 dozens of times an hour but still only average 10. Nothing odd or exaggerated about that. As for the 30hr distance, I haven't asked him. If they were at Hatteras at 6am and 200 miles offshore 31 hrs later...then it certainly wasn't a blistering pace. I don't know if they gybed or not. A downwind VMG of 6.5 is pretty atrocious regardless. The only thing I can think is that 200 miles off Hatteras is sorta vague. Either way, it shows he was being appropriately cautious for the conditions. I seem to remember something about anchoring waiting for tide, too. The unofficial 24-hr record on a GB is +/-420 miles. Our best is +/-360. Our average is probably 220 though. As for wind claims, remember that you're an owner operator. There are MANY times we had to leave the dock in conditions that you would've sat out. Nevis to St. Barths (upwind) in 30 gusting to 50. Mykonos to ??? gusting to 70+. If it was my boat and my family I would've hung out and waited. But that's not what we are paid to do. We are paid to do what's asked of us. We explain the risks, the downsides, tell the boss that the kids and wife will hate Dad for making them sail. But at the end of the day you do what you're told and do the best you can. Despite all of what I just said...I wouldn't describe 20-30 gusting to 40, downwind, as a forecast that I would want to sit out. If you want to cross oceans you have to be willing to face 30 knots. That's not crazy. If you refuse to leave the dock if 20-30 is forecasted you'll never make it in this industry. That's not "Bounty" territory. That's another day in the NE Caribbean. That's a mellow day in the Aegean. That's 1/2 the time in the Med Sept-Nov. Well written Soma.
  6. Volvo Ocean Race sets up report into Team Vestas Wind grounding Posted on 16 December 2014 0 [source: Volvo Ocean Race] An independent report into the grounding of Team Vestas Wind’s boat on a reef in the Indian Ocean has been set up by the Volvo Ocean Race. The incident happened on November 29 on Leg 2 of the current 12th edition. The crew escaped safely after suffering minor injuries. The boat, Vestas Wind, ran aground on the Cargados Carajos Shoals (St. Brandon), 240 nautical miles northeast of Mauritius. A panel, to be chaired by Rear Admiral Chris Oxenbould (Rtd), is to provide the Volvo Ocean Race with its final report by January 31, 2015. Volvo Ocean Race intends to make the report publicly available to make sure its learnings benefit the whole sailing world and not only the race. This is scheduled for no later than during the Auckland stopover (February 27-March 15). It can draw upon a wide range of input from, among others, crew members of competing boats in the event, members of the race committee, electronic chart providers, and the emergency services organisers. Rear Admiral Oxenbould is a former deputy chief of the Australian Navy and an experienced ocean racing yachtsman with a particular expertise in navigation. He is also the chairman of the Yachting Australia National Safety Committee. Ocean navigational expert, Stan Honey who won the Volvo Ocean Race 2005-06 as navigator onboard ABN AMRO ONE, and Chuck Hawley who serves as the chairman of the U.S. Sailing Safety at Sea Committee, will assist the Rear Admiral Oxenbould on the report. The panel will examine: What happened and why Vestas Wind ran aground Consider all the Race’s administrative procedures and documentation in place for the race Review the emergency management procedures in place and their effectiveness in the incident Make findings and recommendations as to any changes to the race rules, procedures, administration, documentation, boats or equipment that might serve to prevent a possible recurrence. The Team Vestas Wind crew and sponsors are collaborating fully with the panel’s investigations. Meanwhile, Team Vestas Wind reports that this weekend shore manager Neil Cox, accompanied by his team, will take advantage of stable weather conditions and return to the Cargados Carajos Shoals to continue the clean-up of the reef. Team Vestas Wind and Vestas are committed to removing the Vestas Wind from the shoals and restoring the area.