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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.


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  1. Ok, my PI insurance doesn't cover me to work in the USA (although it covers me for most other parts of the world, apart from Burma, Somalia, North Korea, and a couple of others I can't remember off the top of my head), but if this boat goes up for sale and anyone would like a pre-purchase survey, then I'd be happy to do it for a very low fee and travel expenses, just to see how many rainforests worth of report I can fill with defects. As far as value goes, it's not going to be high, as no matter how good the interior may have looked at one time, the market for 70 foot home designed and built schooners in questionable materials is not big. I reckon it could probably sit for sale for literally years, even with an asking price of $1.
  2. Our opinions of Reid's art will have to differ. I admit it's not the greatest of archaeological treasures, but there was definitely information to be gained by knowing about what it was and where it was, and that information has now been lost. As I don't rate Reid's art work, I regard that information as being of significantly greater value to humanity (I've also been conditioned from three years at university sharing houses with archaeology students, who can get a bit worked up about stuff like that).
  3. Looks like the Teredo worms have done a fair bit more carving on that piece of wood than Reid has. Personally, I don't rate his art - his technique is amateurish, and his rationale is gibberish. His art is a bit like a cargo-cult, he goes through the motions without knowing what it is he's doing, except perhaps attempting to make a fast buck off people with more money and less sense than he has (OTOH, quite a lot of artists do this). I'm more interested in the piece of wood he found - a 3' wide plank of anything is highly unlikely to be recent, it has marks that indicate that it used to have some sort of ironwork attached to it (possibly hinges or banding of some sort), and the teredo indicates that it's spent some time in salt water, but probably not for at least a few years. It may have had some sort of archaeological significance, but as he's taken it out of it's context and sawn it up to play at sculpture, the world will never know.
  4. Erm, has Reid somehow been sailing through a different, far more abrasive, sea than the rest of us get to sail on? I've seen abrasion damage at the bows of boats, but only when they've been playing with river ice, and even then the ice has to get fairly thick (a couple of inches or more). What's the betting that his main problem is rusty metal causing the fer-a-lyte to spall off (in a similar way to concrete cancer affecting buildings)? I'm also wondering how he's actually going to make effective repairs, as if he's just using the same techniques her used to build her he's going to discover that polyester resin does not bond chemically with cured polyester resin, so anything he slaps on is likely to crack off again sooner rather than later.
  5. That pretty much sums up the situation. A boat can last a very long time as a static houseboat even if it's in a condition that would probably sink in 5 minutes on the open sea. More so if it's in a mud berth in a quiet backwater, where even if it no longer floats it's still high enough that the water doesn't come above the bilge. My guess is that he could last a long time in a sheltered fresh water mooring, but that eventually either the hull will spring an unstoppable leak, or rainy season (there are two a year in Guyana) will produce a river in flood that overwhelms his moorings and the Anne gets swept into trouble somewhere.
  6. 60 tons sounds a bit light to me. I used 18m (60 feet) as the LWL, assuming that a 70 foot LOA did not include the bowsprit (conventionally in naval architecture it doesn't). If the 70 feet includes the bowsprit the LWL will be more like 15m (50 feet). I guessed the max. beam at 4m (13'4"), and the 3m (10 feet) draft is from Reid himself. I used a prismatic coefficient of 0.7 as she's a bit of a barge (a prismatic coefficient of 1 would be a completely rectangular cross section, 0.6-0.65 would be more typical for sailing boats). Even using the lowest figures I've given, she still comes out at 108 tons, and would require at least 20 tons of concrete on top of the lead/steel to give an adequate ballast ratio. The figure of 60 tons might relate to Thames Tonnage, which is an artificial measure of volume that has no direct relationship to displacement. Reid would have had to have the Anne measured for Thames Tonnage in order to register her in Antigua (and the figure will be carved in to the main beam, or a piece of wood permanently affixed to it, along with her registration number).
  7. If the Anne displaced 40 tons, her draft would be about 3 feet, not 10 feet. My (admittedly rough) calculations show that she weighs about 150 tons (maybe somewhere between 120 and 160 to give some idea of the confidence of my estimates). I guessed at a ballast ratio of 30-35%, which would require 19 (metric) tons of lead/steel and about 40 tons or so of concrete. Intentionally removing the rudder while at sea is not a technique I would ever consider using, but Reid is quite possibly insane enough to try it. If he wants to persist with the emergency steering method, then chafe will come to haunt him, and/or he'll crash into a lot more things as they go up river. Some of the things he crashes into will probably be big enough to cause serious damage.
  8. I think you've hit the nail on the head, the hull of the Anne is approaching the end of it's useful life. It would be far easier and cheaper to build a new hull and transfer everything else across than it would be to repair her (and he'd still have the problem that everything else is rusty and worn out - looking at one of Carly's pictures of a block, I notice it's rust-coloured Fer-a-Lite with the chicken wire showing through). Even if Reid does have 29 tons of materials and tools on board, I don't think that will be enough to rebuild her. Getting her on to dry land is essential for any meaningful repairs, no matter how much Reid may wish otherwise.
  9. Another Reidism. Not many tons, probably about 2 (listening to the video on receiving rainwater). He put junkyard steel in the cement ? Quietly rusting away, expanding... How many voids or hairline cracks must there be in that cement, hand poured, bucket by bucket, saturated with salt water. Take a look at the framework for the rudder. Its not even stainless steel. How many of those home made welds would now be rusted and broken ? how would you set about fairing the inside of that ? You wouldnt. Just keep pushing the ferrolyte into the wire. 42,000lbs is definitely closer to 19 tons than 21, not that it makes a significant difference. If he used junkyard steel, I'll bet it's in the form of steel punchings. I have those (mixed with polyester resin) in the keels of my Express Pirate, and there's evidence of a repair in one of the keel stubs where water has sat in the depression, saturated the resin, and caused the punchings to rust, bursting through the top of the keel. Fortunately a previous owner has dealt with the rust and glassed over with epoxy, and so far it appears to have solved the problem. (My snag list includes filling in the keel depressions with expanding PU foam and glassing over with more epoxy to prevent water sitting there in the first place.) I wouldn't necessarily recommend stainless steel for the rudder, at least not with Fer-a-lite construction (not that I'd ever recommend Fer-a-Lite full stop). Embedded in Fer-a-Lyte it would be in an anoxic environment with large quantities of chloride ions, something that makes stainless steel corrode very quickly indeed. Having said that, if I were building a Ferrocement rudder like that, I'd probably use mild steel and stump up to get the whole lot hot dip galvanised after I'd welded it all up.
  10. holy shit, rainman! Holy Shit! Naval Architecture 101 A water tank filled with wet sand will weigh roughly twice what it does when full of water (assuming there aren't any large voids). Knowing from Reid's recent update that they have two water tanks in use, I'd expect that if there's a third one full of sand then that may have added two or three tons of ballast. At a rough guess, this would ballast her down by a few cm, and isn't going to have much of an effect on her overall stability.
  11. With lead at about $1 per lb now, suddenly "The Schooner" is worth something. If his statement is accurate, for a change. I calculate that 42,000lbs of lead is about 1.7 cubic metres, so it would fit in the bilges, However I'd guess that the Anne displaces something like 150 tons (based on 18m LWL, 4m beam, 3m draft, prismatic coefficient of 0.7 (she's a bit of a tub)). 19 tons of lead gives a ballast ratio of 12.6%, which is pretty low (especially considering it's all internal). I'd guess she's got about 40 tons (or just over 18 cubic metres) of concrete inside her as well. Incidentally, I checked historic prices for lead and found that in 1981 (the furthest back I could go), the price was nearly $700 per ton, so somehow in 1978 (I think that's the build date for the Anne, please correct me if I'm wrong) he was able to find at least $13,300 (let's not even begin to think how much it would cost to cast into ingots, even at 1970s prices that's a lot of fuel). Oh well, if she were somewhere with access to a scrap yard, it looks like if the Anne was broken up whoever did it might just cover their costs.
  12. There is one point you are overlooking ... this is the mystical jungle, anything can happen overthere. And for sure a higher spirit such as Weid, having the capabilities to invert his internal organs (for whatever reason or use ...haven't figured that one out yet), donning his magical dragon hat and invoking the spirits of his buddies Jezus, Buddha and Bernard, he'll simply elevate the Tantra barge straight out of the water. Where is tabman when he's needed ? and on the other hand, if you would have $250k, would you spend it on a derelict piece of crap like that one or wouldn't you rather go scoring the 2nd hand pages ? To be perfectly honest, if I had $250,000 (about £170,000) I'd probably spend it on buying my own boatyard here in Norfolk, so I could earn money working for myself rather than other people. If somebody else has a large pile of money that they'd like to turn into a boatyard in Guyana (which may be a profitable enterprise, given the lack of competition and that Guyana is just beginning to attract cruising yachts) then I'd happily consult for them and my rates are very reasonable indeed. You'd actually have to pay me money (and not a small amount) to take on the liability of owning the Anne, and I wouldn't put a penny into her. She's a bad design, built in bad materials, and badly aged. If I did wake up hungover one morning to find the ownership papers in my pocket (about the only circumstances where she may fall into my possession), then I'd get a certain amount of satisfaction from breaking her up with a large excavator and sending her off to landfill.
  13. I don't doubt that many palms would need to be greased (and legislation adhered to) in order to build a marine railway on a riverbank in Guyana, I merely restricted my comments to my own area of expertise, as it's very difficult to argue with basic maths and engineering. Careening the Anne is a possibility, although it does depend on there being enough tidal range (there might just be on the Essequibo, not sure about the river he's on at the moment), and/or variation in river flow - I notice they've arrived at the tail end of one of the rainy seasons. Unfortunately for Reid, whilst careening can be ok for routine maintenance, it doesn't give the kind of access to the hull that might be necessary for major repairs, and the working conditions aren't particularly conducive to good work (too wet and dirty). If he can find somebody with enough local knowledge and the river is guaranteed to go down far enough, then he may be able to construct some sort of wooden grid with drying posts to put the Anne on until the rain comes again. Even that's quite a big undertaking (again it requires a piledriver on a barge or raft of some kind, and plenty of labour), and I'm sure would also require permits of some kind. I'm not sure if Reid has accepted that bringing the Anne to Guyana for a refit was a bad idea (if it ever was the real reason for going there), but I'd be amazed if he manages to get anything constructive done. It took me 30 seconds on the 'net to find out that there are basically no boatyard facilities in Guyana suitable for cruising yachts (and that Reid screwed up by clearing customs in Georgetown - he should have motored four hours up the Essequibo to Bartica, which is also where what workshop facilities there are are located).
  14. I agree that a marine railway is probably the safest way of getting a boat like the Anne out of the water without doing more serious damage to the hull structure. I've used a smaller marine railway at work, and been present when the Gosport ferry has been slipped at Marchwood, on a marine railway built to slip WWII landing craft preparing for D-Day (so about the same size as that which would be needed for the Anne). At Marchwood the power for the winch is supplied by the engine from a large Lend-Lease truck (yes they are still using the engine fitted in 1944, something of a testament to American engineering from that era), and the winch cable is 2-3 inches in diameter. Assuming the Anne has a draft of 10 feet (and recent pictures indicate that she's a lot lower in the water than at the start of the 1000 day drift, so that's probably a conservative estimate), and a 1 in 10 gradient is acceptable (and I'd suggest that's a bare minimum, 1 in 20 would be better), then the point on the carriage where the deepest part of the keel rests will have to be at least 10 feet under water. I estimate that that will require about 150 feet of railway below the surface and 70-100 feet above it. Say 250 feet in total. Most of the carriage could be constructed from wood (although to be strong enough it's going to be very bulky, steel would be better), but the wheels need to be metal, as do their axles and bearings, and the rails (let's not go into how many sheep/goats need to be rendered down to use wooden ways greased with tallow, that's a technology that fell out of common use in the 19th century for good reason). By the looks of that river, the bottom is mud/silt (with a fairly high proportion of decaying organic matter, as it's flowing through jungle. So, before anyone can lay a single rail, a solid foundation is required (concrete over hardcore would be my preference, wooden piles are possible if they can get enough (a couple of hundred) big trees and a suitable piledriver, which I really doubt). It's certainly not impossible to build a marine railway for the Anne, but it does require a lot more engineering knowledge than Reid has (given that he thinks he can invert his internal organs and has some that are unique to him, I don't hold out much hope of him knowing anything about science). It also requires a lot more money - if I had to pull a figure out of my arse, I'd guess at there being not much change from $250,000 after everything that wasn't available locally was imported, but that's only a rough figure (expect it to go up, not down).
  15. Going a little off topic, but my other (better) half is currently doing research into pain control after elective knee surgery (total knee replacement in the trial she's running). If you were signed up for her trial, then you'd get to be in charge of your own pain pills (although not the Oramorph, which still has to be given out by a nurse). Of course, you'd also have a bunch of physios determined to get you mobilised as quickly as possible (they expect you to be up and starting to walk the morning after surgery, as the quicker people get mobile after knee replacement, the fewer complications they get).