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  1. keelbolts

    Just Another Restaurant Mass Murder By Gun

    I am a true believer. I believe that all people, rich and poor alike, are the sole owner of their money and their possessions. I believe that taxes are only legitimate if they are fees for services rendered. I believe anything beyond that is theft. I believe the rich do not, in fact, use more government services than the poor. I believe theft is theft, whether it’s a bad guy in an alley or the IRS.
  2. keelbolts

    Just Another Restaurant Mass Murder By Gun

    We all benefit from the system in which we live. I’m not yet persuaded that they benefit move than others. For that matter, it works out if they do as they already contribute more in taxes. I’m sure a case could be made that they contribute more in other ways as well. Stop trying to punish people for being successful.
  3. keelbolts

    Just Another Restaurant Mass Murder By Gun

    Is the Federal Government providing those additional years of life? If not, why would you expect the rich to pay more to the Government for something they don’t receive from it?
  4. keelbolts

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    Same here. I also find it interesting. It's how things work. There are some things that I'm sure of and I'm willing to go to the mat over, but, when it comes to this stuff, I'm often unsure of where I stand. If we're arguing gun control, I'm willing to fight for my stance if it hairlips every bull in Texas. If I get flicked, that will free up time. If in those discussions, I ask a question, I'm probably trying to lead the discussion someplace I want to take it. On the question of our screwed up economy, I have opinions, but if I ask a question, it's truly because I want to hear the answer. There seems to be a general consensus here that I am either some guy named Jizkid or some right wing extremist. I can live with that as I'm clear enough about who I am that, ultimately, I don't give a shit about what others think of me. I suspect more than one of these guys would be surprised to find out my go to talking head, on all things economic, is Robert Reich. If, somehow, you're unfamiliar with him, look him up on YouTube.
  5. keelbolts

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    I’m not saying, for an instant, that the 1% don’t have a lot more options in almost everything than the rest of us do. I’d be lying if I said I wasn’t jealous of them sometimes. Covetous at least. But, in my moral universe, I just can’t steal somebody’s wallet because I, or somebody I know, needs the money. That doesn’t mean I’m unwilling to change the system that allowed practically all the money to flow to the top. Is there no way to fix the problem that’s not dishonest?
  6. keelbolts

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    Man, are they supporting the system! The numbers vary, depending on the slant of the person or organization that’s displaying them, but, according to one site, in 2014 the top 1% paid more in taxes than the bottom 90% combined. Again, statistics are always there to be twisted, but you can’t find any anywhere that don’t show the rich paying waaaayyyy more than “their fair share.”
  7. keelbolts

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    Ah, now we see a glimmer of light! There’s probably been hope, all along, for us to agree on parts of this issue. I think we agree on the problem, we just don’t agree, yet, on the solution.
  8. keelbolts

    Just Another Restaurant Mass Murder By Gun

    Here’s an easy example to see: property taxes on cars. Let’s say I bought a car. I don’t have a lot of money so I bought a 10 year old Honda Civic. I paid taxes on the money I earned to buy the car. Then I paid taxes on the car when I bought it. Then, before I knew it, I got a property tax bill for my car in the mail. Whoa! Didn’t I just pay the tax on my car? They say, yes, but that was for the car, this is to pay for the roads, and associated stuff, that you need if you’re going to drive your car. OK. That might makes sense to me. Here’s what doesn’t make sense to me. Thurston Howell III buys a Rolls Royce. His property tax bill will be 50x what mine is. Assuming, for the sake of clarity, that his car somehow weighs exactly what mine does, is he using more road, when he drives, than I do? If not, what legitimate reason can there be for charging Thurston more? Sure, the rich SOB has the money, but it’s just not honest.
  9. keelbolts

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    Obviously, we need to fix the problem, but we first need to be sure we know what the problem is. I don’t have a problem closing the loopholes and accounting tricks that are designed to protect the wealth of the one percenters, but stealing the money they made, legally if not morally, under the current system doesn’t work for me. It’s called, among other names, moral consistency. If me taking your money against your will is stealing, then the IRS taking your money against your will is stealing too. Paying taxes to pay for the government services you want is the honest thing to do, but, until you can convince me otherwise, taking more from one man than another, for the use of the same services is dishonest. Of course you go to people with money if you want to steal money. Every robber knows that. By the way it’s neither right wing nor left wing, it’s honest.
  10. keelbolts

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    I just like the quote. I don’t know much about the court’s views on wealth distribution or taxation. I will say that I don’t trust the court any more than I trust the other two branches of the Fed Govt. Dont confuse my asking what the people can do to fix their own financial problems with my believing that the system doesn’t often play a huge part in creating them. I think the biggest problem facing us on this front, and one you don’t hear much about, is that we do now, or we will soon, just simply have more workers than jobs. Years ago, if a man didn’t have a job it was because either he didn’t want one or wasn’t willing to do what was needed to get one. There are now plenty of educated, hard working people for whom there is no job available. There’s a problem that's solution is likely to turn, what we capitalist pigs believe, upside down!
  11. keelbolts

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    Steam, I haven’t done an in depth historical study of progressive taxation, but I think, in the modern world, to the extent that it’s closed the income gap, it’s been more successful at bringing the top down than the bottom up. What is the max percentage you think should be taken from a citizen in taxes?
  12. keelbolts

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    I don’t know what I said that would lead you to think that. I believe Justice Brandeis was correct when he said, “We can have democracy in this country, or we can have great wealth concentrated in the hands of a few, but we can't have both.”
  13. keelbolts

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    Well, that's like insisting the earth is flat Huh? What, in the world, does your response have to do with my quote above?
  14. keelbolts

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    A deduction, even on the current residence really is just another break that serves the top more than the bottom. My understanding is that most, if not all, of the rest of the world doesn’t have it and people still own homes. I think it was put in place to encourage home construction and purchase. One thing I remember from school is that people in the government knew that one of the easiest ways to keep a man in line was to saddle him with a home mortgage. It was a major thing that got the Feds into insuring home loans.
  15. keelbolts

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    The cap sounds like a good idea, and easier to get through, but I’d be willing to propose no deduction. No deductions at all. Straight flat tax. Two line forms: What is your total wealth? send us x percent of line 1. Not this year’s income, but total wealth. First wife’s Father was very wealthy, but with everything paid off and no job, his income for 1973 might not have been that much more than mine.