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      Abbreviated rules   07/28/2017

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  1. DC Designs

    Had to happen... ...but has already be done and sailed by Peter in Germany. He equipped his Chris Maas boat with an Asym Kite and the possibliity to remove most of the gear for racing ....
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    This was what Steve was hoping for when he developped the new rules. Glad to see it happenning after only a few years of development. Should be an awesome ride. The other hope was bringing the numbers up. At least in Germany this works too - we have 18 entries for the nationals end of july (more then ever). Lots of young people in the available One Desings and 7 female sailors proove that IC sailing hasn't to be a sport for middle aged wealthy man.... Additonally there are about 7 new rules boats in different built phases which will give another boost when they are on the water. The fears of a possible frustration of OD sailors turned into the different as more competetive and relatively cheap ODs are available and form a competetive field on their own. And most of them are keen on upgrading some day on a new rules boat.
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    The hull complies with 5 b (5 b is part of the rules section titled Hull). In the transom area nowhere did I alter the the line of greatest beam of the hull from how Chris built it. The breach in the hull that the crudder slides into is not "greatest beam" so the concave and convex requirements are not applicable. FYI, I did modify the line of greatest beam at the radii where the 45 degree lines from the stern transition forward. The modification was to increase the radii slightly to ensure compliance with the 60mm convex radius rule. The third coat of primer went on last night. Being a rookie, painting seems to involve more sanding than painting and maybe more sweating too as the boat has been moved from the cool basement into the hot garage. One more sanding session and the topcoat goes on. Made the tiller extension yesterday, so no more doo dad parts to make, outside of a suitable roof rack setup. El Crapitano, The concern that I have with Rule 5b is the last sentence that defines the shape of the ends of the hull. On the attached sketch, the top illustration shows the intent of the rule, and the bottom illustration shows where there may be a problem. Feel free to give me a call Best John John, this concerns will also apply to any Chris Maas hull which have the slot for the rudder cassette opened to the end of hull. The only difference to El Craps crudder i see is that Chris rudder cassettes are not extending the hull when they are fixed in the slot. And as far as i know all Chris Maas boats did measure without problems... Roger Roger, The difference between El Crapitano's boat and other boats designed & built by Chris Maas and others with a tilt up rudder is that El Crapitano is defining the cassette as “Rudder Hardware or a Rudder Fitting” that is allowed to extend beyond the hull so that he remains within the hull length limit. In the case of other boats with the rudder cassette in an open slot at the stern, the rudder cassette is measured as part of the hull, and is within the 5200 mm length limit. The historically the cassette has been accepted as an extension of the hull. I understand the exclusion that allows rudder fittings and hardware to extend beyond the 5200 mm length limit, but if the cassette is not part of the hull for the purposes of measuring length, it cannot be part of the hull for the purposes of defining the shape of the ends of the boat. John John i think it doesnt matter how something is called - it only counts what it is. Are the cassettes of the Chris Maas boats part of the hull ? Then the crudder cassette should be part of the hull too. If the Cris Maas hulls (or others build similar) measure without the cassette in place, the cassette could be viewed as a part of the rudder. But that looks like rule cheating for my since the rule was intended for normal transom attached rudders and not cassette holded ones Roger
  4. DC Designs

    The hull complies with 5 b (5 b is part of the rules section titled Hull). In the transom area nowhere did I alter the the line of greatest beam of the hull from how Chris built it. The breach in the hull that the crudder slides into is not "greatest beam" so the concave and convex requirements are not applicable. FYI, I did modify the line of greatest beam at the radii where the 45 degree lines from the stern transition forward. The modification was to increase the radii slightly to ensure compliance with the 60mm convex radius rule. The third coat of primer went on last night. Being a rookie, painting seems to involve more sanding than painting and maybe more sweating too as the boat has been moved from the cool basement into the hot garage. One more sanding session and the topcoat goes on. Made the tiller extension yesterday, so no more doo dad parts to make, outside of a suitable roof rack setup. El Crapitano, The concern that I have with Rule 5b is the last sentence that defines the shape of the ends of the hull. On the attached sketch, the top illustration shows the intent of the rule, and the bottom illustration shows where there may be a problem. Feel free to give me a call Best John John, this concerns will also apply to any Chris Maas hull which have the slot for the rudder cassette opened to the end of hull. The only difference to El Craps crudder i see is that Chris rudder cassettes are not extending the hull when they are fixed in the slot. And as far as i know all Chris Maas boats did measure without problems... Roger
  5. DC Designs

    Chris for me personally the best idea is to loose a few kilos of weight and doing some excersises during the winter to avoid being exhausted after the first round of the course when we get back on the water. I think i`m far away to realize the full potential of your green beauty ... Roger
  6. DC Designs

    look at this: and this: or this: more pics from the Worlds are =54&tx_lzgallery_pi1[pic]=1&tx_lzgallery_pi1[colrows]=5x5"]here: Thanks Robert! Roger
  7. DC Designs

    Hi Steve, I will be sailing Monkey at the worlds. She is mostly as she was last time although she will be sporting a new set of Ullman Sails. Chris Hampe Hi Chris , hope Monkey behaving her self, new sails look good, will be intresting to compare Monkey and Dragonfly as I never had them side by side , but sailing Dragonfly she feels very similar to Monkey, just the nose lifts a bit more. Let me know if there is any info you need on her Alistair Additionally there will be me on GER 78 (Steve Clark Build Plywood), Peter Ullmann on GER 79 (Chris Maas Build), Stuart Brown on String Theory for Australia and more than a dozen other Germans on ODs, some with well known potential in light air. Hopefully Peter and i can leverage the fact that we had more than just a few rides on our new design boats .... Roger IC GER 78
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    really a nice one Steve. Of course i'm interested in the differences to GER 78 did you change the hull shape ? did the use of carbon outside the ply enable you to stiffen the hull wothout the foam and kevlar inside like it was done in GER78 ? Is the foredeck carbon only or is there some thin ply under it ? Will yo hit teh Min weight ? Sorry for being such curious ... Roger GER 78
  9. DC Designs

    thats a picture of me on the other side of the world - but shows the same spirit. Roger IC GER 68 + 78
  10. DC Designs

    Looking good Roger all credits for the boat go to Steve !
  11. DC Designs

    and another one Roger IC GER 78 and GER 68
  12. DC Designs

    Some Pics of me and GER 78 on the Wannsee looks as slim as it is looks like i have to work on the jib trim Roger IC GER 78 and GER 68
  13. DC Designs

    Phil - i have no information about Peter and for me its still unsure - i would like to come, but i might have some overlapping with other important dates. What about you and Travemuende Week in Juli? travemuende is a four days professional managed regatta on a fantastic venue and its participating in one of the biggest dinghy racing events worldwide. Roger IC GER 78 and GER 68
  14. DC Designs

    i hope this phase will end soon - so that i can go the poetic way directly ...
  15. DC Designs

    Some updates from GER 78 (still needs a name and a descision in which color it ist going to be painted....) After i managed to transport the massive crate Steve has build for transport safety (6,3m x 1m x 1 m; ca. 300 kgs total weight) to Berlin, unpacked it, puzzled it all together, builded a trolley, i had the impression that i need to learn to sail canoe again. Not so much because the boat is more unstable, but every movement i had to do is a bit different from the movements i used to make on my "old" canoe. So my boat handling on the first trips was horrible. The best way to learn to manage a new boat is to race it in difficult conditions - and thats what i did: an IC regatta on the Steinhuder meer with wind from 0kts - 25kts and a yardstick regatta on the Wannsee (in Berlin) only up to 20 kts but very shifty. The regatta results were lousy (compared to what i could have done with the boat i'm used to sail), i lost two kilos of weight and have some bumps and bruises on nearly all parts of my body but: Everything did hold together. GER 78 was very quick upwind as soon as i could sit outside - i could point higher and go remarkably faster than the Nethercots She goes through the waves like a warm knife through Butter, nearly without spray, without claping, when she sticks the bow into a wave she goes through without slowing down. Downwind in a breeze she sticked her bow quite often into the short high chop on the steinhuder meer with water running over the front, but she didnt slow down much and never tried to pitchpole. In flater water it was no problem to keep her bow up and the mast step dry. With nearly no wind i had no better boat speed than the nethercots, but i think there is some room for improvement, but not so much compared to what happens in 9+ kts. After all it was lots of adrenalin and very promising when thinking of how it can be when my tacks go smooth, i manage to keep the mast in the air and i can use some of my concentration for tackticks (not only for keeping the boat running). Roger IC GER 78 and GER 68