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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.


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  1. Frers 33
  2. I hear you, same class. We raced the shore course so we could race against a great collection of boats similar to ours. We submitted our ORR Certificate recently and received the email from BYC stating we rated out of Shore with an ORR 649.7. The cutoff is in the Notice of Race obviously but we never assumed we'd rate faster ORR than it based on the previous year's course splits. So, who else previously in Shore Course Racing will see Cove Island buoy this year? Only about 150 people on the planet may actually care! I hope a bunch of boats receive the notice to race Cove because its has been so fun and challenging to race essentially boat for boat against the X-102, 35MKII, the Olsons, Farr 3/4, 10.3, 9.1, J/34, J/92 etc. Cove offers a lot more options tactically and has that high lonesome twang to it compared to the Shore course drag race, so we are stoked in that respect. I think we all are hoping that 660 cutoff brings in enough boats for the same tense class racing we've experienced over the past few years with boats in the 96-130 phrf, 0.800-0.840ish ToT. range. Right now, I see the slowest Cove class as containing at least the O 29, Mirage 338, Frers 33, C&C41CB, 4 NA40s, C&C 40-2, Peterson 37, 38s5, and 2 Beneteau 42s. Its clear the J/34, C&C 35MkII, Olson 30 are out. Unknowns are the Farr 34, j/92, Hanse 370, C&C 99, and X102, Catalina 470, 30SX. Judging from the O 29 and O 30 difference ORR, its hard to predict. Looking forward to when the BYC scratch sheet reflects the Notice of Race cutoffs and course designations. Maybe that will come only when they release the class breaks after all the certs are in. Right now, it shows ToT ratings and course breakdowns consistent with last year's splits. Side note: Our phrf rating when up for the first time in forever this year which is ironic as our first ORR cert rates it faster. It challenges my on the water witness that a 33' boat weighing 9300 lbs without crew, on a 26'7" waterline with a DL of 215 is faster all around than a Olson 30. Its got greater I, P, E and J measurements so maybe that's part of the answer in addition to modeled wind velocity. Eq
  3. Crawled around this 1968 Vic Carpenter built beauty on the hard and for sale in Traverse City a decade or so ago. It had me dreaming and wondering how I could ever afford it's stewardship. Not affiliated with this boat at all and I know there is a Vic thread already but just really really dig it. It seems someone picked her up and dusted her off in 2010 so if anyone knows more about this gem, pre or post refit, due tell. Rudder and hull form strongly suggest he designed this one.. Check out the link to God's, i mean Irish's, used boat page for more pics of some Vic awesomeness. http://www.irishboatshop.com/UsedSail Also, Lightfoot's old ride for comparison.
  4. did you buy her from jon gregory? my father raced on her with him for several years. they used to take gregory's sons and i along for the ride during red fox regattas in the early 80's. loved that boat and was wondering what happened to her. good to hear she still floats. dave hall had both discovery 1 and half fast built by goetz, i believe (chocolate chips was goetz build #7, discovery #9, fast half #21). the baby blue masts matched his drilling rigs. i'd say discovery's deck was the best looking of the 3/4s. we've got a great family photo of me being thrown off her transom into the drink at the raft-up in the boyne city marina. i was probably 8. the photo shows the heritage 37s, seredipity 43s, tunas, a rodgers 3/4 ton and other dinos in the background. they used to pack them tight after saturday's race. great times.