Alan Andrews

Members
  • Content Count

    72
  • Joined

  • Last visited

Community Reputation

14 Whiner

About Alan Andrews

  • Rank
    Member

Contact Methods

  • Website URL
    http://www.andrewsyacht.com
  • ICQ
    0

Profile Information

  • Location
    Long Beach, California

Recent Profile Visitors

1,793 profile views
  1. Alan Andrews

    Andrews 28 Hulls 2 and 4?

    Silversailor - congratulations! These are fun boats, I had the pleasure of racing with Ivan on hull #1 in a couple of regattas several years ago. Fun to sail and plenty of room for the crew to enjoy a beverage below after racing. Enjoy.
  2. Alan Andrews

    Doug Peterson yacht Mayhem

    Mayhem was built by Kiwi Yachts in Florida, designed by Doug Peterson and launched shortly before SORC 1981. They had a good crew and were using SORC as tune-up for British Admiral's Cup trials. The crew of top British sailors included David Howlett, Derek Clark and David Allan-Williams for part of the series. I was the only American aboard. That was a long time ago but I think we ended up 2nd or 3rd in class behind Acadia. There is more information and photos in the Doug Peterson Tribute Facebook page and some magazine articles on line that have been scanned. Good luck in your search for info.
  3. Alan Andrews

    America's Challenge?

    Pretty sure this is the ex-Yamaha II which was winner of the 1993-94 Whitbread. The America's Challenge campaign bought this boat as a training boat. Their new boat for the next Whitbread made it to Cape Town before funds had evaporated. It is now named Challenger based out of Nova Scotia on the Atlantic/Caribbean circuit.
  4. Alan Andrews

    Sail or Bail?

    Late to the discussion here but know a little bit about the boat. Yes, the owner spent a fair amount of money on the project but also a whole lot of his and friends manual labor in the finish work, deck hardware, etc. for the +-40 year refit. This boat has a lot of thought in it and appears the hard work is done. As noted in another thread, sometimes it is better to buy the boat someone else refit if you want to go sailing rather than boat building. With the way safety regulations have changed it isn't easy to qualify a Hobie for some of the offshore races. The under cockpit outboard well meets the requirement of having the engine quickly deployed and it would actually work pitching in seas w/o the prop coming out of the water if you had to power back to a man overboard. Some Hobie 33's don't pass the 115 Stability Index for Cat. 1 races and this owner spent the time and $ to get this one to meet the limit. Another thing to check off the list if you want to race a boat like this offshore. This isn't the 'barn find' car waiting to be turned into a show stopping hot rod; that's already been done. If you want the cherried out classic hot rod but not the three year project, check it out. Value is what the market will pay so we'll all find out eventually. Oh, and the name, as Nick G notes it's had the same name since Day 1, from what I hear, since the boat was new. Good on the owner for not just attempting the refit, but seeing it through to stunning completion. Hope the next owner keeps it sailing.
  5. Alan Andrews

    Cabo 2019

    Nice videos Hitchhiker! Didn't know you were recording. It was pretty fun driving fully powered up with the 3A in those hours after the start just zipping down the coast. Also, great job in keeping us pointed the right direction to Cabo!
  6. Alan Andrews

    Pyewacket T-Boned at Campbell Cup?

    This looks like the boat that was originally Stella Maris. The ex-Elysium has more of a center cockpit IIRC. It looks like the fixed ports in the house side might have been "adjusted" in the latest refit. The boat was originally built as a cruiser and the original owner wanted a big house, raised interior, etc. Pretty fast for a cruiser.....
  7. Alan Andrews

    Dobroth MORC 30

    Nut-hatch asks about the LO PHRF ratings of all of the Andrews 30's and Critical Path has a very plausible explanation. I don't have all the numbers handy but the fractional boat is clearly Heartbeat. Of the others, it is likely the one with I=~44 is ex Short Circuit, ex-Volatile Agent. my recollection was the new rig was only 1-2' taller than original but could be mistaken. How to tell the boats apart? Sure there are similarities but also differences. Most of the full race boats have similar cabins and cockpits but differences in hull shape, beam, beam distribution and engine placement. Keels and rudders have had lots of changes so that's not an easy one. Details was the first in 1982 and there is only one boat of this design. Engine is under companionway ladder. Islander Yachts was going to build a production version but their parent company stopped all investment in tooling and they folded a couple of years later. As noted elsewhere this boat is racing in LIS when the owner isn't sailing with clients. Short Circuit/Volatile Agent was also a one-off from 1986 and is currently believed to be racing in NJ. This boat has wider beam at deck and especially wider beam aft than Details. Side by side you would say it is a bigger boat. Also, engine is forward, essentially over the keel to help concentrate weight and meet MORC bow down measurement trim. Construction is higher tech with all vacuumed S-glass over foam. There is more rocker in the run aft than Details to push harder on MORC's aft overhang and TW measurements. 1988-89 saw Canned Heat (Bare Naked Ladies?) and Jeans built by Scorpio with Jeans having a few inches more freeboard to have 6' headroom. Engines under cockpit, rocker aft not quite as pushed as Short Circuit and front of cabin houses not the long slant of the other race boats. Freestyle/Bondi Tram, FLAK, Risky Business '90, Heartbeat were all to the same base hull design starting in 1989. As mentioned earlier, there is less rocker aft in part because MORC changed the rule. Cockpits are probably wider than predecessors. Freestyle was built by Scorpio and had what could be cockpit seats for day sailing but then a platform to fill the foot well when racing. The others were built by Wiggers and all were vacuumed S-glass and foam. Most of this group had travelers aft of the tiller, as did Jeans and Short Circuit. This allowed the helmsman to be at a wider part of the boat and still allow headsail trimmers some space. As mentioned earlier, the Star 30's have more freeboard and taller house to achieve 6 foot headroom which means for the 30' LOA limit and raked stem they have shorter waterline length. The cruising versions have cockpit coamings and seats. The three race versions - RB '87, Red Inc/Incognito & Notorious have houses similar to Details and Short Circuit and less freeboard than the base version. When freeboard is cut, the beam aft gets narrower and doesn't put the crew as far outboard so on these boats the aft topsides were spread to get some of this back. Hope that helps with differentiation. Many of the Star 30's had the engine forward, just behind the mast again for rating. PearlN - There was a N/M 30 named Rabble whose original owner then had FLAK built. Both FLAK and Red Inc. raced for the first time at the same regatta in Rochester in 1989. Hope that helps...
  8. Alan Andrews

    Dobroth MORC 30

    Crankcall didn't get it quite right, there were several Star 30's built but in several different versions. FLAK, Risky Business '90, Freestyle, Heartbeat, Jeans, Canned Heat, Short Circuit were not Star 30's. Of the Star 30's, many were built with the original tall house & cockpit seats which also had higher freeboard to get the headroom. Original design brief was for a boat that could cruise with full headroom. Because of the high freeboard and same stem angle to other boats of the day, the Star 30 waterline had to be shorter and with all the accommodations it had to carry, it couldn't get lighter. When some clients asked about a racing version, we designed the racing deck and cut some freeboard down to make Risky Business '87 which became Flags and Incognito which was originally Red Inc. Notorious also has the Star 30 racing deck and freeboard is somewhere in between. This boat started with Star Marine, spent some time at Northcastle Marine and was essentially finished by Wiggers. FLAK, Risky '90, Heartbeat and Freestyle are all a newer hull design and were all vacuum S-glass and hi-tech construction for the day. Waterline is longer, less rocker to the profile aft, more sail area and more draft. FLAK & Freestyle were just about the last boats built for '89 Internationals with FLAK by Wiggers and Freestyle by H. Gozzard. Risky '90 and Heartbeat followed a few years later from Wiggers. Since original launch racing has changed from MORC W/L's generally in less that 15 TWS to PHRF and some races that have reaches. When racing is mostly W/L's and no one planes and few surf, it is tough not to look carefully at MORC's 1 sec/mile for 100 pounds of weight. That's what pushed so many of the boats to be up to 7000 pounds. In recent years many of the boats have taken out internal ballast and increased sail area with longer booms, taller rigs, etc. They are still pretty nice sailboats but it is quite reasonable for there to be considerable variation in PHRF rating when some A30's built like the original Star 30's don't have ballast to take out. There are five different Andrews MORC 30 basic hull designs, design differences between some boats from the same molds and probably at least 15% difference between the heaviest and lightest Andrews 30's. The heavier ones probably also have the shortest waterline length. Fun boats, glad people are still enjoying racing and winning races, but many Andrews 30's are not even close to being the same as another.
  9. Alan Andrews

    Dobroth MORC 30

    A couple of key things about the It's OK, Margaritaville and Med Man projects. Each owner was looking to upgrade and there had been a big handicap system change. All had IOR boats (Med Man was IOR sled, a small ULDB 70) and IOR was now gone and racing was either IMS or PHRF. Each owner had continuously maintained and updated their boats so the gear worked well and good parts of their sail inventories had low hours. Market price for their boats were less than the value of the gear/sails/boat parts which worked perfectly well that they could bring across to the new boat. For each of them it made economic sense to bring the value of what they owned and often had recently upgraded to the new boat. Plus, it meant they could start the build right away without having to worry about selling one boat before buying another. The owners weren't going to own two race boats at a time or be trying to sell when most of the world knew they had a new boat under construction and would hammer on the price. It made economic sense. Now, that doesn't mean it makes sense to buy an old boat with old sails and use it as a donor. It is something to examine carefully with very critical eyes.
  10. Alan Andrews

    The Refit - Andrews 43

    Have fun with Kahoots. I sailed a lot of miles with the original owner and its been a good boat. The spin pole track works the same as a metal stiffening bar fastened to the inside of the mast as was common in high end racing spars when this mast was built. Continuing the track below deck eliminated your choice of either A - a stress riser at the high load area where the mast goes through the deck or B - overlapping joint to internal deck doubler stiffening of slightly more metal. Yes, it makes the Spartite job tougher but structurally cleaner.
  11. Alan Andrews

    Pyewacket T-Boned at Campbell Cup?

    Two Andrews/Dencho 70's were built as cruisers. "Stella Maris" was started shortly after "Alchemy" and was berthed at Southwestern YC for many years before being sold and cruising south and west. Hull 7, "Elysium", (widened hull, Bob Perry interior) was also west coast based and became "Elainium" before being sold to KL, Malaysia based owners. After a refit in Phuket, the now "Bella Uno" was based in Subic, PHI the last couple of years and raced in the cruising division of Boracay Cup with good success. Yes, the Estonian boats were a different design for different purposes. Last heard that "Trader" was in Hawaii after a refit in Asia and sail back to the states. Pyewacket should be repaired just fine. That's one of the good things about composites - they can be repaired well without adding noticeable weight. Let's hope Roy P. recovers quickly and fully.
  12. Alan Andrews

    RIP Doug Peterson

    Doug was really sharp and a great designer. The summer after my Jr. year in college I had the good fortune to work for Doug in the mornings and coach Jr. sailing at SDYC in the afternoons. I learned a lot that summer from Doug and his team including Jim Pugh, Skip Calkins, Peter Wormwood (before Stilletto cats) and Bill Hardin. Things must have worked OK because I was asked to stay on another week or so after Jr. sailing ended and before Sr. year started. Over the years since it has been great to talk boat design with Doug - modern boats, fins and foils, classic yachts, meter boats, the whole gambit. I'll always be thankful for that opportunity in college and the times since. Sail on Doug.
  13. Alan Andrews

    Older well known IOR Boats

    WSD is Carl Schumacher design with hull, deck, etc. built by Dennis Choate and hardware, etc. in bay area. Impact was known to be in Coronado, CA and available for sale. The owners (probably the next owners after Ron) haven't been able to use Impact much in recent years and as of a few months ago were looking to find it a good next home.
  14. Alan Andrews

    Miami to Havana Sleigh Ride Thread

    Sounds mostly right on the previous names for Simon Says with the addition of Grins after Front Runner and before Titan.. That boat has sailed a lot of races since the first one in 1991, good to see sailors still enjoying the ride.
  15. Alan Andrews

    Some of my old sailing photos 2

    Looks like the Bill Cook designed Schock 41 that sailed that year but not sure. That might give you a way to look up a sail number and see if the it is consistent with the few numbers visible on the main. Race boats have changed for the better since then in a lot of ways!