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  1. VOR Leg 4 Melbourne to Honkers

    It had been discussed earlier on that the FRO is pulling more upwards other than the MHO, thus keeping the bow oft oft the water for longer periods. Lass drag.
  2. VOR Leg 4 Melbourne to Honkers

    The tracks for TTTP do not look "the business". They are always caught on the wrong bow, having to jibe after been sailing on the header for a bit long. Different wind system now than the top 2 boats. Dramatic loss during the last couple of hours. Been there, tacking/jibing against the system. Very difficult now to crawl back up to the leaders. I feel for them.
  3. VOR Leg 4 Melbourne to Honkers

    Quote Morales is high but Jules is cautious about the team's ability to hold the lead against Mapfre/Dongfeng's proven speed. The last sched revealed a tight packed fleet with much of the leaders headed into the shore. We lost that option earlier this afternoon and have committed to our route in favor of good wind (22knots) and favorable current (if the models are correct). There appears to be stronger adverse current closer into shore. The night will be about fast driving, staying sharp and keeping the pressure on. The team has proven they can get to the front of the fleet, now it's time to demonstrate they can stay there. A big moon is on the way which will be a boon for helmsmen as they pick up waves to surf. Boatspeed is in the low to mid 20s. Lots of water over the deck. 1025UTC - Sam unquote Just sayin to the complainers: there is so much content available. Just go and see the videos, read the blogs. Unbelievable drone „movies“, the world hasn t seen before. Lot s of people have to cope with seasickness during the first days. So do some OBR s. There is absolute no reason to complain as we get everything for free, incl emotions and such.
  4. Without quoting what he said as i know you know, again what a stupid argument „against“ the designers. It´s the crews who decide to carry a sailplan which buries the bows into the sea. The FO has more up-force but probably a kn less speed. Half of the knot gained by using the top rigged sail you are giving away by loading the boat with water from time to time and having more hydrodynamic resistance.
  5. Second post and such bullshit. 1. One of the most thrilling part (MAPF came from behind by abt. 6nm and had been in front by abt. 10 nm after a heroic fight) had been analyzed and discussed on page 27. Do our homework as most people here do and read a little bit of what the forum "experts" have to say. By the way thanks to you guys. You know who I mean! 2. This race is thrilling as well in front as in the back. Weather is interesting and does not always develop according to a forecast. 3. Again. Please read some pages back and you get all the insights of this VOR world and more.
  6. VOR Leg 2 Lisbon to Cape Town

    mmmh, looks different by the minute, cause it is live on the tracker. At this very moment Dee is fastest with 19,4kn and holding course...
  7. VOR Leg 2 Lisbon to Cape Town

    Oh dear, the northerners will be late to the party. Very late if to believe the Forss tracker pushed forward 48 hours. Still abt. some 600nm to go when the first champagne bottles (I guess they all prefer a good beer) will be splashed.
  8. VOR Leg 2 Lisbon to Cape Town

    Oh dear, Universe is striking back: Witty in the 11.48 Video of today is not a happy Camper. That happens when you are telling the world befoee you have done the whole circus: these boats are underpowered and slow....
  9. VOR Leg 2 Lisbon to Cape Town

    VES11 with a bit of bad luck. 3 times lifted on the "wrong tack" - having difficulties to get to the west. Vestas bad luck.tiff
  10. VOR Leg 2 Lisbon to Cape Town

    Honestly, to me it seems that you have not discovered yet to push the slider back as many hours as you did sleep. And than have a look at the data developing in front of your eyes. Me and many here would be grateful if you just think before you type. Thanks.
  11. VOR Leg 2 Lisbon to Cape Town

    You are on to the answer about the "water on deck", but it is more about the front sail pulling up the bow and to my eyes in the leg 2 start video and in the heli shots afterwards, the difference is visible. The top rigged gennies have a more forward/down pull, whilst the fractional ones are pulling the bow up. But there must be more subtitles in to this, as I used to have a 2m bowsprit (on a 7,50m Sportsboat) and a top gennaker which did bend the alu-pole upwards till it destroyed itself. I had to change to a carbon pole which did bend but only pulled the bow up nicely. But than it is a matter of being way too fast and plowing into the wave ahead. Nothing can avoid this, other than throttling down. But who will do that in this competitive fleet. For the more educated: There are visible steering experiences/boat handling/sailing styles/sail options in the (free of charge...) hell vids. THANKS VOR for letting us couch sailors taking part. @ some who will know: Is it not possible to tone down a little bit and to let the real VOR related conversations flow. All sailors/non sailors most welcome but with your asocial language you seem to try to be on your own.
  12. VOR Leg 2 Lisbon to Cape Town

    Time for a reef. What should have been done on the Paintwaggon some time ago...
  13. VOR Leg 2 Lisbon to Cape Town

    Thank you, thank you for this one great link! Enjoy
  14. VOR Leg 2 Lisbon to Cape Town

    Libby Greenhalgh writing about the options on Leg 2. Linky from Scuttlebutt, just in case anyone does not want to open it... http://www.sailingscuttlebutt.com/2017/10/31/volvo-ocean-race-really-now/?utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Scuttlebutt 4951- November 1 2017&utm_content=Scuttlebutt 4951- November 1 2017+CID_fc8f06acd89c043ecee8f53aaa418fba&utm_source=Email Newsletter&utm_term=Read on#more