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      Underdawg did an excellent job of explaining the rules.  Here's the simplified version: Don't insinuate Pedo.  Warning and or timeout for a first offense.  PermaFlick for any subsequent offenses Don't out members.  See above for penalties.  Caveat:  if you have ever used your own real name or personal information here on the forums since, like, ever - it doesn't count and you are fair game. If you see spam posts, report it to the mods.  We do not hang out in every thread 24/7 If you see any of the above, report it to the mods by hitting the Report button in the offending post.   We do not take action for foul language, off-subject content, or abusive behavior unless it escalates to persistent stalking.  There may be times that we might warn someone or flick someone for something particularly egregious.  There is no standard, we will know it when we see it.  If you continually report things that do not fall into rules #1 or 2 above, you may very well get a timeout yourself for annoying the Mods with repeated whining.  Use your best judgement. Warnings, timeouts, suspensions and flicks are arbitrary and capricious.  Deal with it.  Welcome to anarchy.   If you are a newbie, there are unwritten rules to adhere to.  They will be explained to you soon enough.  


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  1. VOR Leg 2 Lisbon to Cape Town

    Oh dear, Universe is striking back: Witty in the 11.48 Video of today is not a happy Camper. That happens when you are telling the world befoee you have done the whole circus: these boats are underpowered and slow....
  2. VOR Leg 2 Lisbon to Cape Town

    VES11 with a bit of bad luck. 3 times lifted on the "wrong tack" - having difficulties to get to the west. Vestas bad luck.tiff
  3. VOR Leg 2 Lisbon to Cape Town

    Honestly, to me it seems that you have not discovered yet to push the slider back as many hours as you did sleep. And than have a look at the data developing in front of your eyes. Me and many here would be grateful if you just think before you type. Thanks.
  4. VOR Leg 2 Lisbon to Cape Town

    You are on to the answer about the "water on deck", but it is more about the front sail pulling up the bow and to my eyes in the leg 2 start video and in the heli shots afterwards, the difference is visible. The top rigged gennies have a more forward/down pull, whilst the fractional ones are pulling the bow up. But there must be more subtitles in to this, as I used to have a 2m bowsprit (on a 7,50m Sportsboat) and a top gennaker which did bend the alu-pole upwards till it destroyed itself. I had to change to a carbon pole which did bend but only pulled the bow up nicely. But than it is a matter of being way too fast and plowing into the wave ahead. Nothing can avoid this, other than throttling down. But who will do that in this competitive fleet. For the more educated: There are visible steering experiences/boat handling/sailing styles/sail options in the (free of charge...) hell vids. THANKS VOR for letting us couch sailors taking part. @ some who will know: Is it not possible to tone down a little bit and to let the real VOR related conversations flow. All sailors/non sailors most welcome but with your asocial language you seem to try to be on your own.
  5. VOR Leg 2 Lisbon to Cape Town

    Time for a reef. What should have been done on the Paintwaggon some time ago...
  6. VOR Leg 2 Lisbon to Cape Town

    Thank you, thank you for this one great link! Enjoy
  7. VOR Leg 2 Lisbon to Cape Town

    Libby Greenhalgh writing about the options on Leg 2. Linky from Scuttlebutt, just in case anyone does not want to open it... http://www.sailingscuttlebutt.com/2017/10/31/volvo-ocean-race-really-now/?utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Scuttlebutt 4951- November 1 2017&utm_content=Scuttlebutt 4951- November 1 2017+CID_fc8f06acd89c043ecee8f53aaa418fba&utm_source=Email Newsletter&utm_term=Read on#more
  8. VOR Leg 1 Alicante to Lisbon

    ...and lot´s for you
  9. VOR Leg 1 Alicante to Lisbon

    Holy shit, the whole shell is wobbling. Now that is an explanation Thinking about it, it might be crew dynamics which are absolute off the pace. That would explain the grumpy look on BB. He just does not get it together. Star studded and all but the team has to run like a well oiled machine. Maybe showing too much consideration at the beginning and when the going gets tough, it ain´t going together good enough. After watching all this drama, I am starting to cheer for the Paintwaggon. It started slowly within me (always cheering for an underdog) but they are sending good raw material, they are fighting for positions though following VEST/11 in the Med to the shore gave them a bit of advantage. They have Nicolai and Martine, both stayed with the team and maybe Lars G will be able to contribute to the team later in Lisbon.
  10. VOR Leg 1 Alicante to Lisbon

    The resolution (helicopter shots) was perfect here, just nobody had time to clean the lenses on the boats cameras...
  11. VOR Leg 1 Alicante to Lisbon

    Maybe you are...we were all happy here since you brought the shite up
  12. VOR Leg 1 Alicante to Lisbon

    They have to refuel first. But we might see it here or on the VOR page. Thanks again, I still need to calm down from this...
  13. VOR Leg 1 Alicante to Lisbon

    @ Rennmaus: Thank you so much for putting it up here, just in the right time! Thanks VOLVO for this fantastic session through the straits of Gibraltar.
  14. VOR Leg 1 Alicante to Lisbon

    If you overlay the courses of VEST and DONG in my understanding, DONG fell into the "trap of the banana course", though this should not happen, but maybe, just maybe they had different weather information. But this had been the crucial part when VEST sailed away. Taking the shifts as they came. I guess some of you had been there, had been lured into the banana course and it got worse and worse though at first you thought about a good lift...
  15. VOR Leg 1 Alicante to Lisbon

    Thanks Bucc, great piece of information for this "small course sailor".