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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.
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      Moderation Team Change   06/16/2017

      After fifteen years of volunteer moderation at SA, I will no longer be part of the moderation team. The decision to step aside is mine, and has been some time in the works but we did not wish to announce it in advance for a number of reasons. It's been fun, but I need my time back for other purposes now. The Underdawg admin account will not be monitored until further notice, as I will be relinquishing control of it along with my administrative privileges. Zapata will continue on as a moderator, and any concerns or issues can be directed to that account or to the Editor until further notice. Anyone interested in helping moderate the forums should reach out to Scot by sending a PM to the Editor account. Please note that I am not leaving the community, I am merely stepping aside from Admin responsibilities and privileges on the site.


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  1. Got him!, nice
  2. Positive roach on code zero and 75% midgirth equals top down application.
  3. Whats the boat? And length of cable? 33' w/retracting sprit. Define "cable"! I think you mean torsion line which is about 14M x 11mm, or the continuous furling line which is all the way to the push pit & back. Why is that important? The Colligo furling rope should handle what your are throwing at it. Kinda close to the top end of what a rope can do versus a Furling Cable from Future Fibers or what Navtec used to offer and still might. But furling cables are much more expenses than a rope application.Having the top down furler, all should be well, and maybe it is a lead issue like most are saying. Or doing it by yourself is hard to get the balance of easing the sheet and furling it in. I would hate to significantly easy the sheet and luff the sail hard to make sure the sheet load is not holding you back from a better furl which you are looking for. Do you have an electric winch so you can dedicate two hands to the sheet. Or are you being cautious of luffing the sail to much and that's not working in your favor? I have yet to be put in this situation... just trying to help think through a solution for you with the little I know about furling cables.
  4. Whats the boat? And length of cable?
  5. Do you have a top down furler? Or bottom up? You might need a top down furler to get a better furl or a better furling cable to handle the problem.
  6. Mid West owner...looks good.
  7. Consolidate the industry... the market share that both Navtec and Hall USA had was dick. The potential to harvest bussiness Yes.. Said but J70's and C&C 30 aren't going to keep the industry going along with J boats. Lets face it the sail industry is really hurting right now more than ever. I hope the best to all of us still making a living at it. Best.
  8. Why guesstimate..go out crewed up, sail with both sails over a given 10 min run at same true wind angle and hopefully the same wind speed then judge the performance. I guess you could debate whether you would hold true or apparent angle for your time'd run. You will only find out the true test of the sails and boat from experience on the water. Of course if you had an identical boat to test against the test would be easier to see.
  9. Good product knowledge...thank you.
  10. Pole forward and trim in on the sheet. Watch the spinnaker trimmer... he doesn't have the sheet on the winch and he can't keep the kite in when the puff hits. Kite rotates to the windward side and pulls the boat over. You have to trim in to bring the kite back to the center of the boat so it doesn't chicken jibe. Bad spinnaker trim and helmsman not in sink.. rockie mistake.
  11. I 2nd ..THAT
  12. It makes me sad too. Getting drunk will help dull the pain though... No getting drunk might start a fist fight..
  13. It's interesting that a person who claims not to care about sailing any more is so fixated on this and attacking another persons character. Does not sound at all like someone who doesn't care or has no agenda.... In regards to the Ev 32 I never said anything about Remedy, It was the guys from Bloody Hell in KW that wrote cheater boat on the keel. {Maybe they knew something, nobody else knew about the boat} "Maybe they knew something, nobody else knew about the boat" again you're pretty consistent with the "drip-drip" character assassination theme. With regards to some of the statements you have made about the boat, please allow me to clear them up with some facts: 1) The boat DID NOT cost 100k to build. This should not matter even if it did, but to address your fixation on it after speaking to the designer it was a bit over 60k ready to sail with electronics and sails. 2) The boat did not ever have 3400 lbs of ballast. I have measured certs that show all the ballast weights in various configurations. None of them are 3400. With regards to using "Mauri Pro" or "Sailboat Data" for your research on a custom boat this will be (and is) wildly inaccurate. Great examples of how inaccurate they are, just look at "Sailboat" data listing the P dimension as 38.25' it was never this and is not now, it is 37.4 or the 11 foot E. The E of my boat has been 12.6 since the mid 80's. 3) "In our conversations you told me the boat was built to sail against the S2 9.1 and Santana in MORC and the ratings were real close under MORC" That is correct and as I pointed out earlier this was to help people understand where the boat raced class wise and what it raced against. As I also pointed out to you I did NOT ask for a rating equal to that of an S2 9.1, what I asked for was a rating between the two 30/30 variants which based on FACTUAL comparison between the boats appears to be about right. 2 of the 3 committees involved in this agree. 4) I have heard from several sources that you & others insist there are photos of the boat with a double spreader rig and that the boat is not in fact "1 of 1". Both of these statements are false. The boat since day 1 has had a triple spreader rig. The mast we are using is in fact HEAVIER than the original mast and is not helping performance but hurting it, the designer urged us to reconsider but we had no choice as the mast we received failed survey. We did not ever ask for any rating credit for using the heavier mast and have no intention to even though it is hurting not helping. The mast we are using was given to us by a friend who wanted to see the boat be completed vs scrapped. As to the "mold" issue, to the best of my knowledge the only Andrews 30's that were built in female molds were the Star 30 & Star 30 Turbo. With that said they seem to all have some variation. These were designed and built a number of years after my boat. 5) "in the right hands the boat is a 114 rater and can complete with the J29, that was before your modification" Another interesting tid-bit that there are no facts to prove. I did speak to the designer in detail about how the boat stacked up against the J 29, he confirmed the boat was slower through the water but competitive on handicap. This is shown in the MORC classes and also backed up by the current rating assigned by 2 of the 3 groups that have rated it in 2016. I realize that none of this fits the story you would like to tell, but you are not basing your story on any facts. The only person who was kept "out of the loop" was you, the committees were all given the same information. So you are saying this is not accurate? Even though at the bottom in the notes it clearly references your boat. I am wrong? And the link:... http://sailboatdata.com/viewrecord.asp?class_id=7103 Hull Type: Fin w/spade rudder Rig Type: Masthead Sloop LOA: 29.97' / 9.13m LWL: 25.29' / 7.71m Beam: 10.00' / 3.05m Listed SA: 458 ft2 / 42.55 m2 Draft (max.) 5.50' / 1.68m Draft (min.) Displacement: 7125 lbs./ 3232 kgs. Ballast: 3400 lbs. / 1542 kgs. Sail Area/Disp.1: 19.85 Bal./Disp.: 47.71% Disp./Len.: 196.65 Designer: Alan Andrews Builder: Dencho Marine (USA) Construction: FG Bal. type: Lead First Built: 1983 Last Built: # Built: 1 AUXILIARY POWER (orig. equip.) Make: Volvo Model: Type: Diesel HP: RIG AND SAIL PARTICULARS KEY I(IG): 41.30' / 12.59m J: 11.84' / 3.61m P: 38.25' / 11.66m E: 11.00' / 3.35m PY: EY: ISP: SPL/TPS: SA(Fore.): 244.50 ft2 / 22.71 m2 SA(Main): 210.38 ft2 / 19.54 m2 Sail Area (100% fore+main triangles): 454.87 ft2 / 42.26 m2 Sail Area/Disp.2: 19.72 Est. Forestay Length.: 42.96' / 13.10m BUILDERS (past & present) More about & boats built by: Dencho Marine DESIGNER More about & boats designed by: Alan Andrews NOTES MORC class B. Synonymous with 'Details', winner of the 1982 International MORC Championships. Slated for production as the Islander 30A but the builder went out of business.
  14. +1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 What that's it!!!
  15. (slite crecctione) Thank snags... i