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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.


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  1. Kids Inheritance
  2. Also, if your interested, https://www.researchgate.net/publication/312041461_Airfoil_Selection_Methodology_for_Small_Wind_Turbines
  3. There is nothing new here, just refinements on previously developed themes. 1969 Beowulf lV is an interesting footnote in multihull design history. She was built on a Bob Riise designed C-cat hull and built by Bob Noble of six ounce boat cloth on either side of 1/4″ end grain balsa. As a C-cat, she was 25 feet long, 14 feet wide, and carried 300 feet of sail, all rule maximums. Wing masts were coming into play and we were trying out a different approach. We used an eight inch diameter thin walled aluminum pipe as a spar, with two sails forming an asymmetric airfoil. Daggerboards were asymmetric, NACA laminar series sections, canted to provide vertical lift to the hull leeward.
  4. Maybe that is their long term thinking. Over the last few years RGYC appear to have made a conscious decision to chase the money, rather than keep the customers happy. They may believe that sailors will always come back because of the FoS history, no doubt time will tell.
  5. My understanding is Geelong Yacht Club had to lock in the FoS dates to coincide with the road racing for 4 years. From a contractual view, I doubt RGYC are in any position to negotiate date changes until 2021.
  6. Roll on over to Assoc. Cup 2018.
  7. In response to Melbourne A31. Although you state you don't care about the Assoc. Cup, your comments say otherwise. But do not for one second try standing on your soap box, beating your chest about "cooking the books", which your club turned into an art form. Hippocrite, is the term most appropriate to your comments.
  8. I've discovered what the extra power ETNZ have available is for.....MORPHING foils
  9. It has finally become clear that Chief Anarchist and CEO Oracle are actually Donald Trump sock puppets.
  10. So that probably answers the WHY. Based on the contributions in this thread, the WHAT comes down to two primary arrangements: Foil control Sail/Wing control So Stingray's idea of wing slot adjustments adds a control, but what effects will this have? both good and bad?
  11. Rapid "micro" movements? No. This is not wing "pumping", this is rapid reduction to leeward side wing pressure. If small enough and fast enough you get increased drive.
  12. ^ Forgetting Team_GBR's insecurities, what can be done with the extra power ETNZ appear to have? The racing arena for the boats does not allow time or distance to "wind up" the AC50's on long legs, so what is the extra power for? More rapid and therefore more incremental foil adjustment Better manoeuverability, how? Rapid Wing pulsing Can any of these be implemented by teams WITHOUT extra power?
  13. OR already made significant advances over the original ETNZ system prior to AC34. There's also a fairly large amount of personnel crossover between the teams - I doubt there are many secrets left from AC 34. Not for a second suggesting that the ETNZ systems aren't excellent, merely noting that all control technology has advanced during the past 4 years, and historical advantages are meaningless. I agree, I just think it's interesting that there are people who think ETNZ might not have very efficient systems and that the cycle grinders are to somehow make up for this. They have been doing this a long time, it's pretty inconceivable that they won't be near the top of the pile when it comes to control systems. So, the premise here, is that the extra power available to ETNZ from the leg drive grinders is being used to "make up" for "inefficient systems". OK. Has anyone here ever heard of "test bed", or "bench test", and "soak testing"? All of the systems aboard all of the AC50's were most likely tested to annihilation on test beds prior to ever being fitted to the boat. If they were not, there is your first loser.
  14. Amazing. Aucklander started a thread with constrained topic very worthy of serious discussion within a very defined framework, the current AC cycle rules and the time left to actually implement. "Extra power, what to do with it?" It took 5 comments to take it completely outside the discussion contraints. I've seen pre-schoolers with longer attention spans. Aucklander specifically stated "not bagging any teams" was a constraint, because it is detrimental to getting ideas, and then being able to discuss them. Once you get some ideas about "what can be done with extra power" then you can discuss whether it is possible to carry out either one, some, all, or none of the ideas. I understand this is an online forum called Sailing Anarchy, but this thread has great potential regardless of which team you are barracking for. I believe the extra power can be used to "quiver", or rapidly pulse the wing by quite small amounts, say 5cm at the trailing edge maybe 2 to 3 times per second to increase drive.
  15. Absolutely. This is where ETNZ MAY have an edge, its going to take a lot of power to drive that next step. The question is .. can arm griders develop the sustained power requirements?