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  1. ACWS New York - May 6, 7, 8 2016

    Wind suddenly died off to 4-7 knots. 10 minutes out.
  2. ACWS New York - May 6, 7, 8 2016

    Just got a 31 knot gust... fun.
  3. ACWS New York - May 6, 7, 8 2016

    Still blowing low 20s. Bar, tnzl, groupama, Artemis are underway. Oracle still sitting. SB
  4. ACWS New York - May 6, 7, 8 2016

    The teams are onboard, getting ready. We are showing 15-22 up and down on the course. SB
  5. ACWS New York - May 6, 7, 8 2016

    Stingray, check your email. I sent pics. I'm out on the water. SB
  6. Artemis?

    Fantastic news about how well the Artemis guys are progressing. In the end though, the big questions is about design. For Artemis to be competitive against LR, logic would dictate that they would have to be in a fundamentally faster boat than LR as it sits now(and that's a TALL order). As incredible as AR's success has been to date tuning up Big Blue, they will likely be at a significant boat handling disadvantage to LR come tomorrow. So they will likely not be able to get as much of the designs speed potential as the LR guys can with the 9 solid months training compared to ARs 7 DAYS! The fact that AR have been able to get to the point they are now in just 7 days of sailing suggests that their overall design concept is very sound. Good balance and easy of boat handling(relative to an AC72 anyway) do not necessarily equal speed however. Based on the gear they are using and the timeline they have to be competitive, I'm assuming that they skipped any attempt at slower but more stable "training foils" and went right for the low drag and harder to control race foils. This makes the success they are having all the more impressive! Assuming no setbacks, they will be getting faster and more confident in their boat, pushing it harder and harder every sailing day. I wish them well tomorrow, they are the indisputable underdog. If they can stay within a reasonable range(say...under 3-4 min) of LR by the finish with only 7 days of training, LR and NZ may start considering them a real threat. If they do better... who knows! Go Artemis!
  7. Artemis?

    Give it a rest! Take a Valium or something. I think that it's fair to say that the Artemis challenge was a full on well funded campaign. They hired high end management, a high end designer/team, and world class sailors. Unfortunately, a few mistakes were made that turned out to be significant setbacks which in turn put them deeper and deeper into a hole with precious little time to correct it. Regardless of the finger pointing and political BS, considering the situation they found themselves in(self imposed), the fact that they haven't given up and actually managed to launch a boat that passed the structural testing is nothing short of incredible. Yes, they managed to put themselves into a difficult place. But it wasn't because they were shooting for a half a$$ed attempt at the cup. They were(are) in it to win, it just didn't work out as they had planned. Next time you have 100 million dollars that you PERSONALLY spend to mount your first Americas Cup campaign, let us know how it works out so all the internet experts can tell you how many mistakes YOU made. Or are you beyond such things since you would clearly "take it seriously"? I'm not rooting for Artemis, but I'm thrilled they have their boat in the water and I certainly wish them luck. SB
  8. Artemis?

    +1 I too have been struggling to give PC some leeway, but this outburst is pathetic. Not a good time to be pointing fingers... SB
  9. Artemis?

    I agree. Who are these people to write off what AR should want to do? There are a hell of a lot of good people involved, and if they want to continue, all the foaming at the mouth about how they shouldn't looks pretty pathetic. Any decent person will stand back, watch, and see what they can do. If it turns out that, after they put out and start trying to sail the boat, it looks like they are incapable of getting it done safely, THEN you can go on about how they shouldn't for concern about the safety of others. But until then, SHUT UP. Save yourself the agrevation and just ignore these trolls. Based on the precedent started during the AC33 court crap, those who look at Uncle Larry and OR as evil will sieze upon any opportunity to slam. If the shoe was on the other foot, and ETNZ was involved in a serious boat failure that resulted in a death, the same trolls would be on their high horses blaming Uncle Larry and OR for ETNZ's mishap. Its what they do. The AR situation is far from ideal but it is what it is. Any team could have suffered the same fate and put the event in the situation it is in now. Hell something can still happen to either ETNZ or LR, minus the death I hope, leading up to the LVC. The boats are extreme and do not react well to adversity. OR didn't think that bit threw enough, but, once again, it is what it is. So instead of insults and ignorant comments directed towards AR, why not hope and debate they make the start line at some point? Simply for the good of the AR staff's morale and the event as a whole? No doubt things should of been done differently for AC34, but it can't be changed now. Then again, to think a signficant group on this site will suddenly lose their negative attitude is simply wishful thinking on my part. WetHog Well said... SB
  10. Artemis?

    Obviously it's the nitrous button... SB