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    Team NZ

    No worries - Kia Ora will step in and keep things going if his Wifi allows.
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    Team Japan

    Bummer how that happens, eh ? Only two more years of bitching - can you make it ?
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    Bermuda?

    Is it just me but don't those boats look really small! I can't make out any sponsors logos That pretty much fucks ET then.
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    Team NZ

    Gotta love those NZander AC fanboys. The definition of good sports. The hits just keep on coming from these guys. Must be in the water or something.
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    Team NZ

    Having a good day are we ?
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    Team Japan

    Like team France is fully funded ? Careful now, Clean likes to think he is free to be as abusive as he wants without any counter argument. His threat if you argue is a ban from We's web site so you'd best be vewy, vewy, quiet! You mean like this, which Mr Integrity denied ? "I have never banned anyone, but you are now #1 on my list. Push it if you like, but don't expect any leniency or a time-out this time." Got it.
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    Team Japan

    Like team France is fully funded ?
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    Team Japan

    Hey you just go on spinning and justifying the US sponsored malfeasance in the world - job for several lifetimes "US sponsored malfeasance in the world" I think your fucked up hatred of the US goes way beyond a simple sailboat race. Lost his meds apparently.
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    Team Japan

    Their is always the Volvo to complain about nav -
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    Team Japan

    No, I see nothing at all related to him about sailing. He does have business ties in the area where the Kansei Yacht Club is, perhaps he's a member. Knowing nothing about sailing, would get him your vote as an ideal team owner in the world super league of the world... Yes, much better to have guys like TT and LE, who not only like sailing but have participated in it at a high level. MSon has my vote for nothing AC related so far but maybe he'll say something encouraging or at least fun, whenever the (completely unattributed so far) announcement does come. If you look into that baseball team he apparently has it in goods hands since the team has won several titles and is known for hiring good talent. Hopefully it will be his approach here too. But the question remains - is he at home plate swinging the bat or just observing ?
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    Team Japan

    I heard from a reliable source that he drinks water. Is that sparkling water or still ? Makes a big difference in the AC.
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    Team Japan

    You don't know shit, another worthless comment. Well that's pretty lame of you, but very typical. The Kiwi's I met during AC34 who were honest and open confirmed this from conversations they overheard from team members from ET. You seem to be the one who doesn't know shit, as told to you by the little girl on the plane Which is probably why you deleted your informative post. Not to worry, I captured it above . Did you run home to your mom for solace cause you got spanked ?
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    Team Japan

    You don't know shit, another worthless comment. Well that's pretty lame of you, but very typical. The Kiwi's I met during AC34 who were honest and open confirmed this from conversations they overheard from team members from ET. You seem to be the one who doesn't know shit, as told to you by the little girl on the plane
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    Team Japan

    I am not against a new AC but why dissing all what made its success ? Maybe your vote is to go back to monoslugs. Where did you read that ? we are talking about the LV and chosing high end brands vs Redbull. Keep on writing your BS. Pay attention moron - the discussion is based on BT's bail out due to the change to cats, and allowing Red Bull in as a sponsor, which is why they bailed. Maybe BT would jump back in if Red Bull bailed and we went back to monoslugs as ET would have done had they not choked. I gave you more credit than that, my mistake.
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    Team Japan

    I am not against a new AC but why dissing all what made its success ? Do you consider AC34 a success in terms of the finals ? Apparently not. Maybe your vote is to go back to monoslugs.
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    Team Japan

    What has that got to do with the 7 wealthy owners who had teams at AC30 and 31? Or for the other wealthy team owners that have made up the bulk of those involved with the Cup since it began? Stop bringing up AC32 to explain away long term pattern from well before then. So what did the AC32 valencia payout, subsidized by Rita, have to do with the entrants ? You claim nothing, I call BS on our argument as you only move the goal posts. Nice try, fail So you're saying that was not an incentive for teams to enter given their were also a number of existing boats already floating around ? Sure thing. Look at some of the losers that participated. I'm stating the event and the payout was subsidized by Rita, who has now paid the price several times over for whatever success you claim resulted from the event. That's the elephant in the room you're ignoring. Wake up, you're not that stupid, but you are apparently a hypocrite. Why also avoid the two obvious questions which you never responded to; 1. What happened to all those screaming for cost reductions when having to compete with LE ? 2. What happened to all those complaining RC didn't solicit inputs from the challengers ? Don't talk to me about moving the goal posts, you'res are on jet powered wheels.
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    Team Japan

    What has that got to do with the 7 wealthy owners who had teams at AC30 and 31? Or for the other wealthy team owners that have made up the bulk of those involved with the Cup since it began? Stop bringing up AC32 to explain away long term pattern from well before then. So what did the AC32 valencia payout, subsidized by Rita, have to do with the entrants ? You claim nothing, I call BS on our argument as you only move the goal posts. Nice try, fail
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    Team Japan

    It's easy to argue, as GG has already pointed out with net-worth numbers, that the VRO's in AC35 are wealthier than those in AC32. It was another tirade by SimonN that admirably went on and on despite being based on such an awfully weak premise. As usual, spin and bullshit from the king of apologists. You seem totally unable to grasp very simple and indisputable facts. Before AC33, it was usual to see 6 or 7 teams that were started by individuals, known as "team owners" who had sufficient wealth to either fully fund a team or at very least, provide the a significant start up fund. For AC34 and 35, we have 3 teams in that position. You cannot change those facts, only how you interpret those facts. Considering that other areas of sailing which require wealth are, in fact, booming, it would suggest that the AC is no longer attractive to those types of people. But more than that, we can see that in AC34 and 35, people who in the past wopuld have been considered wealthy enough to have run a team, even if it was with additional sponsorship, have entered and left, including 2 COR's. Even if we move away from the whole wealthy owner debate, the interest shown by sponsors in the AC is at an all time low. While there might have been a potential excuse of the economic climate back for AC34, that wears a bit thin now. Even a team that had previously been excellent at getting sponsorship, ETNZ, is now struggling compared with in the past. Spin that anyway you want, but any reasonable person would say that there has to be a major problem with tat ent for all that to have happened. And the simple fact that you continue to sidestep is the fact that AC32 was heavily subsidized by Valencia which you also sidestepped with the promise of a payout based on the subsidy. This is simple math even you can understand if you pull your head out the sand, and what has happened to Valencia as a result ? If you want to talk facts, don't be selective - be realistic for a change. You are nearly as good a master of spin as Spinray himself! You want facts? The problem is, facts show how selective you are with your information and how irrelevant it is. First,of the teams with wealthy owners, only 2 were new for AC32. 5 had competed before. Next, the time of entering, nobody would have know that there was a chance of a payout. To suggest that wealthy individuals entered AC32 because they thought they would get a payout is simply stupid. Finally, if you check, for AC30, 31 and 32, there were 7 teams with wealthy owners. If it were about the money from Valencia, we should have seen an increase. So, what we have is more spin that ignores facts and tries to use selective data from one single edition of the Cup to try to explain away a trend that was there well before that edition. How much did Rita spend on Valencia that EB did not have to spend to host there ?
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    Team Japan

    It's easy to argue, as GG has already pointed out with net-worth numbers, that the VRO's in AC35 are wealthier than those in AC32. It was another tirade by SimonN that admirably went on and on despite being based on such an awfully weak premise. As usual, spin and bullshit from the king of apologists. You seem totally unable to grasp very simple and indisputable facts. Before AC33, it was usual to see 6 or 7 teams that were started by individuals, known as "team owners" who had sufficient wealth to either fully fund a team or at very least, provide the a significant start up fund. For AC34 and 35, we have 3 teams in that position. You cannot change those facts, only how you interpret those facts. Considering that other areas of sailing which require wealth are, in fact, booming, it would suggest that the AC is no longer attractive to those types of people. But more than that, we can see that in AC34 and 35, people who in the past wopuld have been considered wealthy enough to have run a team, even if it was with additional sponsorship, have entered and left, including 2 COR's. Even if we move away from the whole wealthy owner debate, the interest shown by sponsors in the AC is at an all time low. While there might have been a potential excuse of the economic climate back for AC34, that wears a bit thin now. Even a team that had previously been excellent at getting sponsorship, ETNZ, is now struggling compared with in the past. Spin that anyway you want, but any reasonable person would say that there has to be a major problem with tat ent for all that to have happened. And the simple fact that you continue to sidestep is the fact that AC32 was heavily subsidized by Valencia which you also sidestepped with the promise of a payout based on the subsidy. This is simple math even you can understand if you pull your head out the sand, and what has happened to Valencia as a result ? If you want to talk facts, don't be selective - be realistic for a change.
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    Team Japan

    Not quite. You forgot two important factors; 1. What happened to all those screaming for cost reductions when having to compete with LE ? 2. What happened to all those complaining RC didn't solicit inputs from the challengers ? After all, LR implemented a challnegers committee - had they retained the role of CoR they might still be around. That said, I agree with Xlot - don't think the team has what it takes.
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    Team Japan

    Thanks Doug, good news. An AC with the US, Sweden, NZ, UK, France, Japan would make a good one. I think Japan will make a good team because: - they have money - most of the boat will be one design - part of the crew will come from previous AC team - DB is still one of the best in his league However to pretend like SWS that they will have as much experience than LR is nonsense. They almost have as much experience as you do - maybe you should sign on and help them out as you're such a self proclaimed expert on everything..
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    Team Japan

    DB won't be with a new NZ team. His temperament is not suited, unlike BA who has complete focus when his arse is against the wall. WTF, he was your hero not that long ago. Now it's his temperament ? You Kiwis are really fickle fuckers.
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    Team Japan

    Talk about a smoke screen. It doesn't matter whether they are bigger or smaller than LR. All that matters is that if they get a Japanese team instead of LR, this is what is happening 1. Swapping a very experienced AC team for one with zero experience 2. Swapping a team with very significant experience of foiling cats for one that has never done it. 3. Swapping a team with lots of experience of wing sails for one that has never used one. 5. Swapping a team that has done 18 months of research into foils and aerodynamics for one that has no experience at it. So, to sum up, we swap a seriously experienced team that was a potential winner for one with no experience who would need a miracle to win. Even if they were able to recruit lots of LR's personnel, creating a team is a lot more than that and even with the wing and platform designs being provided, they are starting a long way behind the other teams. RC is so full of shit I find it hard to accept that even he believes what he says. It's back to the days when he was trying to tell us you could compete in AC34 for under $10m I guess the announcement blows this post out of the water. Maybe RC isn't as full of shit as you think. No, this proves exactly the points made. Look at the facts 1. Son has never been involved in a large sailing campaign, never mind the AC. 2. They are going to use a Japanese skipper and, if you know anything about Japan, you can bet most of the crew will be Japanese. This means little to no foiling experience. 3 How many Japanese sailors have experience with wings, or even if they have an overseas wing trimmer, how many have sailed boats with wings? 4. They are reliant on OR for design input. All the lead players have been working on aero and foil stuff for a long time. How do these guys catch up? The bottom line is simple. We have seen a top class team that was up with the game, if not ahead, leave and it has been replaced by a team with zero experience who will just make up the numbers. if you believe this team will do anything other than just make up the numbers, i would like some of whatever you are smoking I guess you underestimate DB's involvement. Also it's suggested that some OTUSA sailors will be involved, which you conveniently overlooked. Why is that ? Will they win ? I don't think so, but with the right resources they could mix it up which is what we are looking for. It's not that they have no experience in any area, which is essentially what you are claiming.
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    Team Japan

    Wow - thanks for the breaking news. We never would have known otherwise. All of SAAC owes you a significant debt of gratitude for keeping us well informed. Please continue to do so.
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    Team Japan

    Talk about a smoke screen. It doesn't matter whether they are bigger or smaller than LR. All that matters is that if they get a Japanese team instead of LR, this is what is happening 1. Swapping a very experienced AC team for one with zero experience 2. Swapping a team with very significant experience of foiling cats for one that has never done it. 3. Swapping a team with lots of experience of wing sails for one that has never used one. 5. Swapping a team that has done 18 months of research into foils and aerodynamics for one that has no experience at it. So, to sum up, we swap a seriously experienced team that was a potential winner for one with no experience who would need a miracle to win. Even if they were able to recruit lots of LR's personnel, creating a team is a lot more than that and even with the wing and platform designs being provided, they are starting a long way behind the other teams. RC is so full of shit I find it hard to accept that even he believes what he says. It's back to the days when he was trying to tell us you could compete in AC34 for under $10m I guess the announcement blows this post out of the water. Maybe RC isn't as full of shit as you think.