bcopper

Members
  • Content Count

    14,432
  • Joined

  • Last visited

Everything posted by bcopper

  1. bcopper

    Bermuda?

    Is it just me but don't those boats look really small! I can't make out any sponsors logos That pretty much fucks ET then.
  2. bcopper

    Team UK

    Unlike you he also has a sense of humour ... Don't you get tired of stalking SR ? Give it a frigging break loser.
  3. bcopper

    trickle down

    Hell no.
  4. bcopper

    trickle down

    Right. Let's see what they decide at the next meeting Yes, lets see what they decide at the next meeting. Very good point. Glad you thought of it.
  5. bcopper

    Team UK

    Go take your case to LR - who opted for a majority vote on such matters.
  6. bcopper

    Oracle Team USA

    If he flat out said he that did, why would you question it? Ask a detail question if you must, see if he can prove it. I don't feel the need to prove anything to anyone, especially TC or clean for that matter. No balls You are the second to last person I need to prove anything to - a worthless troll on the outside looking in and spewing garbage. Go buy the docs yourself.
  7. bcopper

    Oracle Team USA

    If he flat out said he that did, why would you question it? Ask a detail question if you must, see if he can prove it. I don't feel the need to prove anything to anyone, especially TC or clean for that matter. clean was ready to pay $500.00 for a pic of the 45 chained down - he can afford the documents if he's interested in the facts.
  8. bcopper

    Oracle Team USA

    Your assumption that the judge's reference to settlement must mean that Oracle breached the contract is just plain silly. Porthos, you told us that you believe Spooner signed an at will contract and it that is "silly" to think that OTUSA breached its contract. So why did they obliged them to settle, if for one of the two above reason. If OTUSA was that right they would already have rejected Spooner claims. At the end I bet OTUSA will pay Spooner for his claim and for an NDA to protect the Oracle name If that is the case they still pay more than they would have initially, damage their image, lose money, demotivate their team. This could be the end of OTUSA. They will pay huge $$$ to Spooner, and everyone will quit. Just ask clean.
  9. bcopper

    Oracle Team USA

    Apples and oranges. No relationship between those issues. I don't think there is a lawsuit in the ETNZ case either. in fact I think it is over. And anyone that can buy a cup of Starbucks coffee can file a law suit. Even you know that.
  10. bcopper

    trickle down

    Ever tried psychoterapy against OCD ? Whats psychoterapy, a new medical term originated by trolls ?
  11. bcopper

    trickle down

    Nothing wrong with selling your skills to the highest bidder in a moral economy, surely? Not sure a few around here would agree, like Ta Kootie and his sock puppet, Kia Ora or some such nonsense which he continually denies. hastings and his deranged sock puppets haven't been around here for a year and a half, but that doesn't stop you from still trolling him.... Shows just how far you let him get into that pork pie inside your head.... RO, you might want to deal with you're own problems. That's a big ask, apparently he hasn't been paying attention for 5 years.
  12. bcopper

    Oracle Team USA

    As I recall, the anti friction liquid was eventually determined as totally harmless and not in violation of any anti-pollution regs. I believe it was removed for weight consideration and nothing else, as it was legal an did improve friction. As I recall the anti friction fluid was a mixture of baby seal blubber, fresh larks egg yokes and baby terrapin hearts and as such was not considered a violation of the anti pollution act of 1871...Several gallons on this totally legal leftover fluid has now been used as injections in the recuperation of our lead helms ongoing shoulder problems.. You apparently didn't have your MC helmet on when you ran into that big oak tree, several years ago. Riders who hit trees don't usually survive..... but let's use it as a troll anyway.... 14,400 posts of ear piss.... Those with really thick skulls do.
  13. bcopper

    trickle down

    Nothing wrong with selling your skills to the highest bidder in a moral economy, surely? Not sure a few around here would agree, like Ta Kootie and his sock puppet, Kia Ora or some such nonsense which he continually denies.
  14. bcopper

    Oracle Team USA

    Such a system would almost certainly have violated boat discharge rules here in San Francisco Bay (and there's no way the AC would have gotten a pass on that). Well your "almost certainty" in most every case is wrong. Hanging out with TC s wearing off on you.
  15. bcopper

    Oracle Team USA

    As I recall, the anti friction liquid was eventually determined as totally harmless and not in violation of any anti-pollution regs. I believe it was removed for weight consideration and nothing else, as it was legal an did improve friction. As I recall the anti friction fluid was a mixture of baby seal blubber, fresh larks egg yokes and baby terrapin hearts and as such was not considered a violation of the anti pollution act of 1871... Several gallons on this totally legal leftover fluid has now been used as injections in the recuperation of our lead helms ongoing shoulder problems.. You apparently didn't have your MC helmet on when you ran into that big oak tree, several years ago.
  16. bcopper

    Oracle Team USA

    As I recall, the anti friction liquid was eventually determined as totally harmless and not in violation of any anti-pollution regs. I believe it was removed for weight consideration and nothing else, as it was legal an did improve friction.
  17. bcopper

    Oracle Team USA

    The pure politics and stupidity combined on this forum continues to amaze me. Just waiting for nav to weigh in.
  18. bcopper

    Oracle Team USA

    Wow - that's really hard to figure out, eh ? What's your first guess ?
  19. bcopper

    Oracle Team USA

    But have you conferred with TC on your legal assessment ? He prides himself on being an expert on such matters as we witnessed in AC33 where he consistently failed.
  20. bcopper

    Oracle Team USA

    Absolutely, wouldn't be any surprise unless he makes a rare call to RC for some reason and RC brings it up. Oracle's Lane Says, `I Just Didn't Fit' / With role shrinking, exec chose to resign While Lane, 53, Oracle's president and chief operating officer, was on vacation with his two daughters in Oregon, Ellison called him and essentially stripped him of most of his duties -- from the departments that reported to him to the deals that Lane usually cleared. Ellison, who has dramatically increased his role in the Redwood Shores company's day-to-day operations in the past year, would extend his control to the approval of "every PC the company bought, to every person the company hired" under the new plan, Lane said. So Lane resigned, fueling speculation of a rift with Ellison or a tie-in to the now-infamous Microsoft-related Dumpster diving. But Lane, in his first interview since his resignation, told The Chronicle that neither was the case. Lane said it was his decision to leave, and he holds no bitterness toward the database software company that helped make him a billionaire. "I just didn't fit" within Ellison's new hierarchy, he said. However, he conceded that the split "wasn't amicable" and "doesn't sit well. I think the president (of a company) should make decisions. I think the CFO should make decisions. "I've never seen a CEO micromanage every decision at a company," Lane added. "It's strange." Then Lane has a few things to learn about some SV companies and what makes them successful. And apparently so do you, which is not a surprise. Try working for one if you want first hand knowledge and experience, which you obviously don't have..
  21. bcopper

    Oracle Team USA

    And he'll proudly claim "they read it on SA". What a joke, and where is our resident legal and math expert clean on the matter ? Hard to believe he hasn't weighed in on the matter given his legal acumen on such situations. Probably busy posting it to the front page.
  22. bcopper

    Oracle Team USA

    Court said that the issuance of the arrest warrant was proper as there was some uncertainty as to whether or when Oracle was going to move the boat. Court then said that in order to be able to place a lien on Boat 4, Spooner had to show that he was hired to provide services to, and did provide services to, that vessel. Spooner's contract, however, was much more general than that and did not reference him supplying services to a specific Oracle vessel. Rather, he was just hired to work for the Oracle team and his duties to the team could have varied and included non-maritime components. Because Spooner could not allege that he was hired specifically to work on Boat 4, he could not place a lien on it. For the same reason, the court rejected Spooner's argument that he can place a lien on Boat 4 because he supplied "necessities" to it in the form of getting in O-1 visa (the lien would have been for the expenses he incurred in getting the visa). The court indicated that his requirement to get a visa was not tied to any specific vessel (including Boat 4) but rather was so that he could fulfill his general obligations to the Oracle team. As such, he could not place a visa-related lien on any specific vessel, including Boat 4. In other words, Oracle hired Spooner to be available to work on any of many existing and non-existing Oracle boats. Under those circumstances, maritime law does not allow him to place a lien on any specific vessel. The court did note that if he had not been paid for work that he had done, then he would likely be entitled to a lien. But Oracle paid Spooner for all the work he did and Spooner is only seeking to be paid for work that he expected to do but was prevented from doing due to Oracle terminating his contract. Thanks for the simple and clear explanation. Question - if the boat has been released, why did the Judge order settlement talks, and schedule a hearing for a two months from now? If there was no case, wouldn't he have just dismissed? Read the whole thing, including judgement. It clearly states that the releasing of the boat has nothing to do with the merits or otherwise of Spooner's case, only that the circumstances of the case, even if proven, doesn't allow for a lien on the vessel, for the reasons so clearly explained by porthos. I still cannot see Spooner winning, but who knows - this is being heard in a US court which means anything could happen! If California at-will employment law comes into the picture he doesn't have a chance, although TC will argue otherwise and increase his record to 0 and 5424. Best case his $3000 visa is paid for and he goes home with his tale between his legs and nothing else..
  23. bcopper

    Oracle Team USA

    Court said that the issuance of the arrest warrant was proper as there was some uncertainty as to whether or when Oracle was going to move the boat. Court then said that in order to be able to place a lien on Boat 4, Spooner had to show that he was hired to provide services to, and did provide services to, that vessel. Spooner's contract, however, was much more general than that and did not reference him supplying services to a specific Oracle vessel. Rather, he was just hired to work for the Oracle team and his duties to the team could have varied and included non-maritime components. Because Spooner could not allege that he was hired specifically to work on Boat 4, he could not place a lien on it. For the same reason, the court rejected Spooner's argument that he can place a lien on Boat 4 because he supplied "necessities" to it in the form of getting in O-1 visa (the lien would have been for the expenses he incurred in getting the visa). The court indicated that his requirement to get a visa was not tied to any specific vessel (including Boat 4) but rather was so that he could fulfill his general obligations to the Oracle team. As such, he could not place a visa-related lien on any specific vessel, including Boat 4. In other words, Oracle hired Spooner to be available to work on any of many existing and non-existing Oracle boats. Under those circumstances, maritime law does not allow him to place a lien on any specific vessel. The court did note that if he had not been paid for work that he had done, then he would likely be entitled to a lien. But Oracle paid Spooner for all the work he did and Spooner is only seeking to be paid for work that he expected to do but was prevented from doing due to Oracle terminating his contract. I wonder if Spooners attorney has cashed her retainer checks. Looks like she sold him a bill of goods. He may just get a settlement of $3,000 if he's lucky. You should care reading before making unsupported comments Calimero, this case is about that: "This Order focuses on Oracle Racing‘s arguments that ―the Contract did not contemplate Mr. Spooner supplying services to the ‗4 ORACLE TEAM USA,‘ a necessary requirement to assert a maritime lien,‖ and that Spooner‘s ―work visa has no connection to any particular vessel.‖" Astute observation Holmes. That only has to do with the arrest of the vessel, not his work related expenses which he may have an argument for. This explains why you're 0 of 5423 on legal matters.
  24. bcopper

    Oracle Team USA

    This is sure to hit the front page at any second now.
  25. bcopper

    Oracle Team USA

    Poor assumption. Courts routinely encourage parties to discuss settlement in all types of cases. In some courts, and particularly in federal courts (where this case is pending) settlement conferences are mandatory even if they stand little chance of succeeding. In the minutes I referenced from the hearing on Tuesday, the court had the option of also requiring the parties to addend mandatory mediation or a settlement conference before the magistrate judge at this time and the court chose to do neither. What likely happened is that the court either asked the parties at the hearing what the prospects of settlement were generally or with respect to the arrested boat specifically, or the parties indicated that they were talking about a potential settlement. The court likely instructed them to have any settlement discussions within the next two weeks as it might obviate the need for the court to write an opinion and rule on Oracle's motion to release the boat. Your assumption that the judge's reference to settlement must mean that Oracle breached the contract is just plain silly. If the judge believed Oracle breached the contract, he would have denied Oracle's motion outright. If you assume that, the contrary should also be true. This brings your legal eagle track record to 0 of 5423, but not to worry, you're still ahead of MSP.