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  1. Hard vs soft dinghy

    No- $1,100. I don't have the receipts in front of me but my friend was buying, so it was all added up.Two sheets of 1/4 marine plywood and then some oak, cedar and mahogany- as a home project, all this at retail- approx $600. Varnish, epoxy, glue. Two piece aluminum oars were not cheap, but weight and stowage ability mattered, I think they were around $180. The webbing for the seats was close to $100, as there are minimums to get good stuff, and we bought a selection of colors and have lots left over. Everything was top quality, we figured if we were going to put the time in, it might as well look good, and hopefully last a bit of time. Most of the time I don't add everything up or I use what I have laying around, so I'm sure you could do it for less, but I think its easy to miss how much the incidentals add up.
  2. Hard vs soft dinghy

    As a data point, the Platt Montfort dinghy I built (posted above) cost about $1,100 in parts. The biggest cost was two sheets of plywood as Platt didn't design the dinghy to just use one- I cut one part out of the second. I figure he had plenty of plywood lying around and just didn't care. All the little bits just added up. And I didn't need to buy any tools, which might be the biggest cost for a lot of home builds.
  3. I got divorced today.

    I'm sure many of you have seen this, but worth mentioning is this description by General John Kelly of the last six seconds of the lives of two marines, Corporal Jonathan Yale and Lance Corporal Jordan Herter, in Iraq. I traveled to Ramadi the next day and spoke individually to a half-dozen Iraqi police all of whom told the same story. The blue truck turned down into the alley and immediately sped up as it made its way through the serpentine. They all said, “We knew immediately what was going on as soon as the two Marines began firing.” The Iraqi police then related that some of them also fired, and then to a man, ran for safety just prior to the explosion. All survived. Many were injured … some seriously. One of the Iraqis elaborated and with tears welling up said, “They’d run like any normal man would to save his life.” What he didn’t know until then, he said, and what he learned that very instant, was that Marines are not normal. Choking past the emotion he said, “Sir, in the name of God no sane man would have stood there and done what they did.” “No sane man.” “They saved us all.” What we didn’t know at the time, and only learned a couple of days later after I wrote a summary and submitted both Yale and Haerter for posthumous Navy Crosses, was that one of our security cameras, damaged initially in the blast, recorded some of the suicide attack. It happened exactly as the Iraqis had described it. It took exactly six seconds from when the truck entered the alley until it detonated. You can watch the last six seconds of their young lives. Putting myself in their heads I supposed it took about a second for the two Marines to separately come to the same conclusion about what was going on once the truck came into their view at the far end of the alley. Exactly no time to talk it over, or call the sergeant to ask what they should do. Only enough time to take half an instant and think about what the sergeant told them to do only a few minutes before: “ … let no unauthorized personnel or vehicles pass.” The two Marines had about five seconds left to live. It took maybe another two seconds for them to present their weapons, take aim, and open up. By this time the truck was half-way through the barriers and gaining speed the whole time. Here, the recording shows a number of Iraqi police, some of whom had fired their AKs, now scattering like the normal and rational men they were—some running right past the Marines. They had three seconds left to live. For about two seconds more, the recording shows the Marines’ weapons firing non-stop…the truck’s windshield exploding into shards of glass as their rounds take it apart and tore in to the body of the son-of-a-bitch who is trying to get past them to kill their brothers—American and Iraqi—bedded down in the barracks totally unaware of the fact that their lives at that moment depended entirely on two Marines standing their ground. If they had been aware, they would have know they were safe … because two Marines stood between them and a crazed suicide bomber. The recording shows the truck careening to a stop immediately in front of the two Marines. In all of the instantaneous violence Yale and Haerter never hesitated. By all reports and by the recording, they never stepped back. They never even started to step aside. They never even shifted their weight. With their feet spread shoulder width apart, they leaned into the danger, firing as fast as they could work their weapons. They had only one second left to live. The truck explodes. The camera goes blank. Two young men go to their God. Six seconds. Not enough time to think about their families, their country, their flag, or about their lives or their deaths, but more than enough time for two very brave young men to do their duty … into eternity. That is the kind of people who are on watch all over the world tonight—for you.
  4. Hard vs soft dinghy

    Rasp, I skipped it:-) According to Platt, for this dinghy that is fine- it has a transom bow and stern, and two bottom planks, all 1/4" plywood (transoms doubled), so there isn't a lot of wracking which is what the kevlar resists. When you shrink the dacron you can feel the structure gaining strength- when you can drum an even note on it, it's tight enough. Its only 8' long. Getting in from any height scares people, but the planks (which are inside the dacron) make that easier. Nobody wants to step on the sticks. Abrasion is the other weakness, but modern sail repair tapes do that just fine. I wonder if I should buy some of that flex tape I see advertised on TV. It isn't a dinghy for any real abuse, but of my light weight application it is sweet, and it was fun and easy to build. Some people have done a vinyl wrap for abrasion.
  5. Hard vs soft dinghy

    Here is another Maine dinghy, about as far from a Pudgy as you can get. As my first criterion is lightness, this is the Lotus of dinghies. It is one of the Platt Monfort geodesic aerolite Black Fly dinghies. I built it with a friend last winter, weighs about 30 lbs. Balanced for rowing with two, a little bow down solo. It is stowed on the nets of my trimaran. Based on a summer of use I'm happy, but I carry a roll of duct tape and am very careful landing on a typical Maine shore, and have to be willing to get wet feet.
  6. House batteries

    I'm on a second summer with a single Firefly and solar charging (my outboard has all of 4 amps max charging:-). Very happy with the battery, especially the ability to take a drain and keep on ticking. I have a 12v cooler, so when I'm cruising and using the plotter etc. the system slowly looses voltage if it is cloudy, so I wish I could get a slightly larger battery, but that is not available..
  7. Robinhood Marine / Storm Preparation

    F31 has been in for a glorious October of great sailing, but I pulled the sails off today and will pull the boat this weekend, thanks. We have a ways to go before ice, I trust.
  8. Robinhood Marine / Storm Preparation

    Good people at lots of Maine yards- that is nice to hear. I understand Falmouth had some boats sink, and three boats went adrift off East End Beach in Portland, but given the car taken by many of the owners there, not surprising. That was serious wind, but thankfully for a very short time. I was grateful for my well protected "Baked Bean" mooring.
  9. Coolboats to admire

    And now you are back to Farfarer:-) A really cool boat.
  10. My newest project

    Thanks Bob for that history. You done well.
  11. Show your boat sailing thread

    You can sail right up the St. George in Maine and get a proper gander at the Cushing house.
  12. Lief Erikson

    Here in Maine where a number of towns wouldn't celebrate Columbus, I expect Leif wouldn't get a lot of love. As Bob says, "I pity there poor immigrant"- well maybe not.
  13. 8 Bells for George Cuthbertson

    Thanks for that, lots of beautiful sweet performing boats.
  14. My newest project

    That picture really shows the "butterfly" hatch to good effect- it looks great, as does the rest of the boat.
  15. Uglyboat Admiration Society Hang Out

    My father bought one of those in the late 60's, sold by Evinrude. He thought it was an inboard/outboard Whaler but no such thing. We loved it for sunset pot cruises to miss the mosquitos but it had a car like dash and seating in the very bow for driving (even had a convertible like top and side curtains), and that position was untenable in any waves. I used to stand behind the seat and move the wheel occasionally from there or even go sit in the stern seats on either side of the engine box right aft- they were quite comfortable but getting back to the wheel in waves could be . . . . interesting. Had lots of fun in that boat but got him to replace it with a real Whaler after a brother-in-law sank it..