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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.


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  1. Any new owners take photos of the trolly or video of launching?
  2. Looks good Mika. You mention the join in the two parts, but I didn't see it in any pictures of it. Love to hear more from anyone else who is at Gardasee. Apparently, a demo boat may be coming to Newport this summer.
  3. On a slightly different subject, and maybe one we have already broached (there are over 500 replies after all), what do the Waszp 100 guys and gals on the east coast of the US think a regatta schedule may look like? Off the top of my head, and attempting to go in chronological order: Mid-winters: Florida, panhandle (Sta Andrews Bay YC, Ft Walton, Pensacola?), Tampa/ Clearwater?, US Sailing Center in Stuart?, Miami?, Keys? The earlier the event, the further south it would need to be. June (early): West River Sailing Club Dave Irey (near Annapolis); SSA would probably need some persuading and the NOOD a little earlier may not be a good fit. Spring= seabreeze there. July (late): Hyannis Annual Regatta: the class would have to get an invite and juniors racing the boat would definitely help. Then again, 5o5s and F18s sail, so it may work. Better: Marblehead Race Week, open classes (never sailed there, but sea breeze seems likely) August (middle): Blackbeard Sailing Club OD Regatta. Shameless plug for my home club. 2 circles, junior regatta or Sept: Outer Banks of NC. Several good venues, out of season makes housing affordable. Oct (Columbus Day) HPDO in American YC Rye, NY. Brr, but I love the regatta and the venue. Winter training camp in Florida somewhere? Just some ideas. Folks getting boats in NY and NE will probably have better regattas in mind in those areas
  4. SimonN, ever the voice of reason and insight.
  5. Inserted below: Add quick turnaround from in the dinghy park to on the water.
  6. Well, if a strong dollar means that there will be better fleet growth here I can't argue with that. That, and the total cost for a full on moth is a little gonzo, imho.
  7. Very cool! and just a hop, skip and a jump away
  8. IC Interclub dinghy, to be specific http://interclub.org/
  9. Am I the only person who had to look up what these slow 2 person ICs might be? Dude, all you have to know is bathtub and 3ksb and you have the IC understood
  10. 25 knots is semi fast? When I was a kid we used to think double digits was smoking. Back to talking about extremes, let's compare 2 one design classes that are fairly popular on gt he east coast of the US. Now that winter is upon us, fleets of ICs will be rolling out of garages in New York, Annapolis and other spots. These 2 person bathtubs have maybe a top speed of 3knots. Close, tactical racing, sure. Do I want to race in that fleet? Not really. When May rolls around some of these same sailors in some of the same places will pull out their other boat, a 5o5. Totally different boat-fast, tunable on the fly and a tinkerers dream. Similarities between the 2 are that they are both 2 person and, yes, both tactical. The limited development nature of the 5o5 keeps someone from radically changing something and obsoleting the rest of the fleet. Fast and tactical is possible and a model for success that I think the Waszp can follow. Another similarity between the 5o5 and Waszp- when I had my Hamlin, me and other guys with Lindseys and other older super boats lusted after the latest Rondars winning races. What we didn't have was the 2x to 3x size budget to make it happen. These numbers are almost the same for the Waszp. So kids may lust after the latest Mach 2 once they feel like they have mastered it, but I don't think many parents will plunk down the extra cash to make the leap to that level. I suspect that there will be some old fit blokes that will be beating the kids for a while anyway
  11. It makes a lot more sense for the boat to just a cheap Mach2, basically the same idea as the FX. The price barrier probably takes up 70% of the reason people don't sail moths, and the rest can be addressed without coming up with a totally gimped 'moth' like the Waszp. The FX was US$12,750 in today's money. Surely better design and process can produce a modern version of that for a similar price??? It makes a lot of sense to come out with a brand new product for noobs when evaluating the Waszp from a marketing standpoint, but it looks like this thing has gone from molehill to mountain pretty quickly. Gimped moth? Really? And the side schlepp method of launching and stays slicing you up when you stuff it of a "cheap" Mach 2 still have no appeal to me.
  12. Not too late for our summer in the. US, or Europe for that matter. The delay will mean that you Aussies won't have a chance to work the bugs out before we can get our hands on a boat though. And yes, terribly short term thinking. The costs of releasing a product that isn't sorted out vs. a delay of a couple of months are much worse. Much better to wait a little while instead of getting frustrated