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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.


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  1. No big deal, but if the first event was 38 years ago, this is likely not the oldest of its kind in America. I know of a Club that was doing Wednesday Night Races this in 1960s.
  2. Custom boats require a HIN; The USCG even issues a special series of "homebuilt" numbers since they do not have normal manufacturers initials embedded. I know because I had to obtain one and carve it into the fiberglass hull. Karl
  3. At the risk of offending, I think it is fair to say this model shows some signs of being crudely made - in which case matching it to a precise vessel may not be possible because of differences in the hull form as modelled.
  4. You might want to be cautious about using advice from a "any guru" to design your own rigging. In my experience, you are likely to get a wide range of answers, and then which one do you trust ? Karl
  5. If I recall correctly, Arnie Gay sailed one called "Little Babe" in the Annapolis-Newport race in 1971 back when taking such a boat was widely considered not to be a good thing to do. Karl
  6. 1. Do not spend more on a new build than you can afford to lose. Not saying you want to lose, just be sure you are prepared to handle it. 2. The builders stability is everything. If you need to enforce a contract, you are behind the power curve already. Not an excuse not to have a good contract, but the best one is one you never need. 3.Contracts in foreign countries are a nightmare if anything goes wrong. Karl
  7. They probably look like promos because they are promos. Much of professional sports has become all about putting "asses in seats", and that means appealing to those who are not already involved. Just look at sports that have 100+ game seasons that count for naught once the playoffs start with half the league given a fresh shot as if absolutely nothing had transpired.
  8. At one time there was a rule that prohibited sheeting a headsail to anything projecting beyond the deck edge. Understand the last time I was up to date on the rules for sheeting and trimming sails, dinosaurs roamed the Chesapeake Bay region.
  9. I believe the hiking shown in the 12M picture was introduced in the 50s by Bus Mosbacher in the LIS IOD class and called, back in the day, a "Bumble Bee" hike after the name of his IOD. Prior to that keel boat hiking was facing forward with one elbow and one knee on deck.
  10. The Sea Cliff Yacht Club once long ago held a winter activity called the Downwind Yacht Club. There was a purpose built shallow tank with fanse across one end and lanes. The design rule was the boat had to fit through as specific size round hole. The winning boat back in the day was a spinnaker of that diameter attached to a small pontoon hull trailing behind on a long stick to give the craft directional stability.
  11. I would say the more solid the recipients organization has proven to be, the safer is your deduction. There are risks. Karl
  12. The use of the measure of tonnage to determine eligibility for documentation has nothing whatsoever to with weight. Tonnage is an antiquated simplified measure of internal volume suitable for carrying cargo. Karl
  13. Verboaten has it right. Eisner's first SC70 was never a Donnybrook; it went straight to Bill Martin as Stripes. I think there was confusion because there were claims made at some point that Donnybrook was the former A-N record setter, which she was not. I was aboard when she broke the record.
  14. bCam, I think the boat you saw that was abandoned under construction was probably the third SC for Eisner. The first was the one he won the A-N with and went to Bill Martin, and I believe #2 was slightly more tweaked to go upwind. I believe I saw Bruce sailing on it with Jim off Annapolis at the time of the sale. However, old age I takes its toll on memory and I am sure Bill Lee is a better source to check this.
  15. IIRC, one of the first of the line was a C&C 38 or something similar. Next was the Frers. After that the replacement SC70 that Bruce Eisner built after he sold the original Starlight Express SC70 that set a course record and won the A-N to Bill Martin who called her Stripes as I recall.