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      Abbreviated rules   07/28/2017

      Underdawg did an excellent job of explaining the rules.  Here's the simplified version: Don't insinuate Pedo.  Warning and or timeout for a first offense.  PermaFlick for any subsequent offenses Don't out members.  See above for penalties.  Caveat:  if you have ever used your own real name or personal information here on the forums since, like, ever - it doesn't count and you are fair game. If you see spam posts, report it to the mods.  We do not hang out in every thread 24/7 If you see any of the above, report it to the mods by hitting the Report button in the offending post.   We do not take action for foul language, off-subject content, or abusive behavior unless it escalates to persistent stalking.  There may be times that we might warn someone or flick someone for something particularly egregious.  There is no standard, we will know it when we see it.  If you continually report things that do not fall into rules #1 or 2 above, you may very well get a timeout yourself for annoying the Mods with repeated whining.  Use your best judgement. Warnings, timeouts, suspensions and flicks are arbitrary and capricious.  Deal with it.  Welcome to anarchy.   If you are a newbie, there are unwritten rules to adhere to.  They will be explained to you soon enough.  

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  1. Anyone used Kiwigrip and removed it?

    It's good for racers because it's easy on, and an easy repair or patch. But it also get's dirty, wears, and after a couple years it might want a fresh coat. But racers trash anything in 3-5 years, right? Cruisers who never break stuff and hope to get 10-50 years out of a paint job might want to look into a 2k deck product. Application temperature is critical with Kiwi Grip. The longer it takes to dry the less sharp the texture becomes. And if there is any hint of silicone residue, ANY, that spot will flake immediately. It's great for what it is, and easy to apply and patch one-part non-skid. It's really a DIY product, pros want to do better. Pro Tip: Buy several pint cans and put your extra paint in them. Then you'll have paint to do patches with. Don't leave a quart of Kiwi Grip in a one gallon can for an extended time.
  2. Why don't more people race?

    The days of "run what you brung" are long gone. Gotta have a purpose built race boat with fragile sails if you don't want people calling your boat a 5 knot shit box. Add in the YC membership, US Sailing membership, ratings certificate and measurement, fleet membership, race entry fees, safety at sea class', maybe an insurance rider, meeting "racer only" safety regulations, being told you should also study the appeals section of the racing rules. It just adds up, and then you realize you'll never get your boat up on foils.
  3. Hey Editor, ever heard of one design?

    Ed's is basically the Donald Trump of sailing. He'll say anything to get a rise out of people, and we love him for it. Go Scooter, Make Sailing Great Again
  4. AIS to iPad or other tablet

    I was in a similar situation. I finally decided piecing together a system to save a few bucks wasn't worth the hassle. Every cost cutting option I found had usability drawbacks or unexpected costs. Ended up with a Vesper 8000 from Milltech.com using their GPS/AIS antenna and had it running with INavX, iRegatta, and my NEMA data two hours after opening the box. I was $200 over the cheapest home-brew option I could estimate. Works great, reliable, no hassles.
  5. Heavy #1 vs #2

    Chill out guys. If you want to keep a full main while singlehanding on a breezy day with ZERO weight on the rail and the autopilot driving, be my guest. I never said anything about reefing with a racing crew aboard. I do appreciate the comments about the technical difference between a light and heavy #1.
  6. Heavy #1 vs #2

    So a true heavy #1 is the same dimensions as a light, just heavier material and a flatter cut. No hollowed out leech or shorter luff. I'm hearing a #2 is likely the better option than a heavy #1. I didn't realize a #2 was one design prohibited, I was told "they didn't need a #2". Good to know. Considering the beam of a Schock, prioritizing a flat boat makes sense. We always go to the #3 early just to keep the boat flat and pointing nicely. We have mostly flat water, and rarely need the power to work thorough chop. While singlehanding I regularly even reef the main, which other Schock sailors have told me is sacrilege....but flat is fast in my book. We have a #4 jib that serves as our storm/delivery sail. But what is a Code 6 main?
  7. Heavy #1 vs #2

    Schock 35, a masthead 35' racer/cruiser boat. Going straight from the #1 to the #3 is pretty common for the boat, but it'd be nice to have an in-between sail to save our #1 from sailing in the top of it's wind range too often. But I'm mostly interested in the technical differences between a #1 vs a heavy #1 or regular #2. Honestly, four head sails is three to many for any sane person, but that's the life of an 80's race boat owner.
  8. Heavy #1 vs #2

    We typically shift directly from our #1 (150%) to our #3 (105%) on our masthead rigged boat. For those in-between days, we've been getting by with a used sail from a fractionally rigged boat, It's about a 145% sail on our boat, but the luff is short which helps to keep the power down low and the slot open. Seems ugly, but it worked fine until the sail disintegrated...because it gets the hell beat out of it. Now shopping for a new sail. Wondering about the functional differences between a heavy #1 vs a #2. It seems many people use these terms interchangeably, but I've always thought a heavy #1 to be a 150% with the leach hollowed out and maybe a shorter luff that can handle gusty conditions. While a #2 is a regular cut 130% sail with a normal cut leach. Any practical comments on how these sails actually differ in cut and how they behave? Thanks!
  9. At it's core, isn't the AC really about seeing how much money rich guys can throw at each other? All these attempts to control the event take the fun away.
  10. Are J/24s Still Fun?

    Heck yes. But you first have to get past the idea that fast is the only criteria to have fun. J24 is an awesome all-arounder 24 foot sailboat. If speed is all you want, buy a Donzi. If it turns you on, go for it. If you have doubts, find something that turns you on.
  11. FP Anarchy kicked out of race

    Ed could show them he's a real bad ass by taking responsibility for his actions, forgiving others for their faults, and working to help everyone move on to better things. Given the attitudes that have taken over Washington lately, that would be the new anarchist course of action. But who am I kidding. We're all just here to watch the shit show. Do whatever the hell you want, Ed.
  12. Leatherback Design Deck Socks

    Wife gave me these Leatherback Design Deck Socks advertised on the homepage. Pro: Well made and comfy Nice for walking around the house on wood floors. Con: Horrible if the boat is heeled over. The socks can/will roll on your foot and send you flying in a heartbeat. Get soaking wet with even dew on the deck.
  13. Help!....Time for new batteries

    I went to Batteries Plus and they had such a good selection of sizes in deep cycle batteries on hand that I was able to up-size to a slightly larger battery and pick up 30% more capacity for $10 extra cost. The person behind the counter actually knowing something about what they sold was also a a big plus. The guy at Napa knew a little, and we all know the guy at the bigbox store was clueless. I considered the fancy marine batteries, but since switching to LED and solar my battery needs are nil.
  14. Chicago-Mac/Meridian X MOB Recovery

    I'm racking my brain trying to understand why anyone would buy an AIS plb instead of a DSC handheld radio. The radio will reach ANY boat within a similar range with a radio, and you can actually talk to that boat. There's no 7 year lifespan, it gets weather, you'll use it daily and take care of it, and even if it's not DSC you can still scream mayday into the microphone and give verbal directions. . Seems like a no brainer. Why don't safety advocate suggest taking this super simple solution off the nav table and putting it in your pocket.
  15. PLB with AIS

    My point is that I struggle to understand what AIS offers that a DSC VHF doesn't. Similar range and gps positioning, but how many boats actually have AIS compared to virtually every boat with a VHF on channel 16? Even if you don't have DSC, you can hail mayday and communicate two way, which neither AIS or 406 offer. The MOB in the Mac last weekend had an AIS stick, but nobody within 4 miles had AIS. Useless. They found him because of a plastic whistle that cost 99 cents and had no battery to expire in 7 years. I'm just thinking out loud here.