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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.


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  1. I would think that having the topsides come up vertically from the chine would help to reduce wetted surface. Any angle to the topsides at a chine would tend to increase wetted surface. Angling the topsides outwards would also add weight, not only for the additional amount of topsides (hull) but also for the deck that would have to be extended to cover the now wider boat. Angling the topsides inwards might reduce the deck width and weight, but would still add to the hull weight (due to the extended sides of the hull) and the wetted surface. Angling the topsides inward might also lead to reduced buoyancy as the hull submerged more... not necessarily what you want if you're surfing down a wave and might get pooped.
  2. When I was about 10 I sent a friend up the mast on a Blue Jay in order to measure the distance from the top to the hounds. He dropped the ruler into the water and I went over to the side to get it before it floated away...
  3. Unless his "going missing" was to create more motivated SAR operation. Maybe he was staying in the Captain's quarters.
  4. If you go to look at a boat with a broker and take a moisture meter with you is he going to stop you from using it? Not likely. You are inspecting a boat that you might want to buy. You are not poking your knife into the planks, pulling out loose caulking, or even banging on the fiberglass with a hammer to see if there's any delamination. Your meter isn't going to damage anything, and won't cost as much as a survey. Be careful interpreting the readings though. When we had our J/36 surveyed, the first surveyor told us that the hull was completely saturated below the waterline. We contemplated this and reasoned that if it was that wet, the freezing temperatures we'd had over the winter should have delaminated everything. But there was no delamination. We called in a second surveyor. He put his meter on the hull from the inside and found no moisture. The first surveyor's meter was apparently reading moisture levels in the antifouling paint. The second surveyor turned out to be right. We've had the boat 20 years now, and are still beating J/109's boat for boat when we race it.
  5. Seems like a lot of work to raise freeboard and add weight of new decking, cabin and furniture and still end up with a boat where you can't stand up down below. You could get a Tartan 10 and add a varnished cabin trunk to make it pretty for a LOT less - even if the Etchells was a given to you for free.
  6. We've tried FSR for blemishes on ours. It seems to clean things up color-wise, but leaves the area looking dull.
  7. Look up the Moosehead Awards. On Wednesday our PRO sent about a dozen boats up to a windward mark that hadn't been set for the season yet. Stuff happens all the time. Some of it is noteworthy.
  8. Must be pupating? Moths are attacted to candles. Try Candlestick Park?
  9. How did you apply the Kiwigrip? (What size/style roller did you use to get that degree of stipple?)
  10. Nicely done. We had similar issues but attacked it from underneath because we didn't want to mess with the deck and having to paint everything so it would match. Not fun fighting gravity to get the balsa or 'glass to stay put, but we managed. Overhead ended up getting re-shot w/gelcoat so the repair matches well with rest of interior.
  11. You could get a diaphragm pump and screw it down to a board. Then have hose clamps keep everything snug. Should cost less than $200. You may also find that the right-sized hose screws into the the top of the Beckson pump using the spiral of the reinforcing wire to hold it in place and keep it from leaking. If yours is coming out, it may simply need to be slightly bigger, and engaged properly in the pump's discharge spout.
  12. Would think that 5200 in the line would create a hard spot that might lead to breakage. Maybe over such a long period (4-5 years?) that it wouldn't matter?
  13. We had a similar problem at our club. Getting the boats out of the garage, into the car, setting them up again: hassle. We set up a place where the boats could be stored at the club, with the idea that they could be used by other interested members if the owner didn't show up him or herself. A volunteer makes sure all the batteries are charged up and the boats all ready to go. We have 29 Independence RC boats in the fleet and about half of them are now involved with this program. Fleet racing kickoff is today!
  14. Why is it a problem? There should be plenty of space for it on deck or even below.
  15. Am thinking about similar setup for my 505. The big new spinnaker has a hard time fitting in the old-sized spinnaker chute. Are there problems with lines coming from the deck level tangling in jibsheets and such? The original setup puts the downhaul line in the bilge where there don't seem to be as many lines flying around to snag.