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  1. Hi Oxygen Mask-

    Would you, by chance, have drawn up plans for your Tremolino's padded seats & tramps?

    I have (think) the only round-bilge MkV Trem in cedar strip, and the seats/tramps are all UV-rotten.  I'm toying with making hard seats, but padded soft might make more sense.


    Vermont Mitch

  2. 65- by 32-foot catamaran 3200sqft of living space

    Not a fair analogy at all. If HR had just lashed a huge pile of HomeDespot building materials together and announced an intent to see if it would float him to the Islands and Points Beyond, we'd all think he was nuts and forget him in 2 days. The thing would float and probably outlast him. Heyerdahl did not make a floating condo out of this stuff and call it a yacht -
  3. F-22 Update

    I would say No. Further I would ask "What 'rep'? First I've heard of it. There have been how many? 3 or 4 capsized? And it IS a racing boat. A powered up and FAST racing boat. So that's not an outrageous number, like oh say the R33 for example... There have been lots of them bought for cruising and daysailing too, and they seem to be doing alright. So I would say No.
  4. 65- by 32-foot catamaran 3200sqft of living space

    Jeez, I would think after all that pedanticizing over the etymology of the terms for sheetrock, you guys would know that green sheetrock is not waterproof. Not even particularly water resistant really. The paper itself is 'mildly' more moisture resistant than the non-green stuff and that's it. More like mildew resistant. If it was actually waterproof, the joint compound (pretty sure they call it 'poi' in Hawaii) wouldn't stick to it...
  5. 65- by 32-foot catamaran 3200sqft of living space

    I hope he used Gorilla duct tape. (Couldn't have as his budget is too small, that stuff ain't cheap) Regular gray hardware store duct tape isn't waterproof. I will fall apart in mere days if wet enough.
  6. 65- by 32-foot catamaran 3200sqft of living space

    sorry couldn't resist
  7. 65- by 32-foot catamaran 3200sqft of living space

    "REAL power is something you take."
  8. 65- by 32-foot catamaran 3200sqft of living space

    . People keep comparing this to the Tin Can. For an endeavor that is so fundamentally similar, it is so very different. Similarities include - Both guys knowing they were doing things different than the norm, and believing they knew enough to do it anyway. Both guys would not take or could not get advice from professionals. But ahh the differences - This boat has no engineering. Tin can can had an overabundance of "engineering." But it was all wrong. This boat has no structure. Tin can had an over abundance of "structure." But he had no concept of material properties. (His welded aluminum scaffolding would snap in the slightest swells.) This boat has far too much freeboard and windage. Tin can had more structure than buoyancy, it had almost no hulls and far too much scaffolding. Its LWL was nearly at the submerged point. This boat is built of materials that are not compatible with wet environments. Tin can was all welded aluminum, which is not bad for a boat. But there is one more big difference. Hot Rod is following his dream on his own dime. As far as we know it's his money he is most certainly about to lose. Tin Can's failed attempt was all other people's money. So, I give HRod the nod for integrity. But I gotta wonder if maybe TinCanGuy was smarter, after all he didn't lose his 'own' life's savings...
  9. 65- by 32-foot catamaran 3200sqft of living space

    Aha! Leeboards! Classic time tested seaworthy design concept. He must have read about them somewhere. But, they will add to the stresses trying to separate his cat into a tri.
  10. 65- by 32-foot catamaran 3200sqft of living space

    "According to National Geographic the speed of the Titanic at the time of impact with the ocean floor was nearly 35 mph. It took approximately 24 minutes for the vessel to strike bottom. The rate of descent has been estimated at 500' per minute. The ocean depth is nearly 13,000 ft where the hull rests in two pieces." So, yes.
  11. 65- by 32-foot catamaran 3200sqft of living space

    There was a guy a while back who started a Farrier cat, claimed he had enough helpers and funds to fast track the build, insisted he would be in the water in something like 3 months.. He just didn't understand why all the neighsayers. (Things like you can't lay up and cure that much glass in that short of time, no matter how many man hours you can afford...) Also note that he was never heard from again...
  12. Uglyboat Admiration Society Hang Out

    because those Buccs rarely sell for more than $1500 Correct! And I just reread my post - it sounds snooty. Sorry about that. but -Damn- that thing is ugly in person. And missing half its standing rigging. I'm surprised the mast is still up. I guess I just don't understand why somebody bought that when there's an almost mint Cherubini Hunter 27 with AC and hot water for sale for $6000 two slips down.
  13. Uglyboat Admiration Society Hang Out

    That would be a Bayliner Buccaneer 272. (277 if diesel) Could be worse, much worse... It could be one of these - or these -