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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.
    • B.J. Porter

      Moderation Team Change   06/16/2017

      After fifteen years of volunteer moderation at SA, I will no longer be part of the moderation team. The decision to step aside is mine, and has been some time in the works but we did not wish to announce it in advance for a number of reasons. It's been fun, but I need my time back for other purposes now. The Underdawg admin account will not be monitored until further notice, as I will be relinquishing control of it along with my administrative privileges. Zapata will continue on as a moderator, and any concerns or issues can be directed to that account or to the Editor until further notice. Anyone interested in helping moderate the forums should reach out to Scot by sending a PM to the Editor account. Please note that I am not leaving the community, I am merely stepping aside from Admin responsibilities and privileges on the site.

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  1. Not a fair analogy at all. If HR had just lashed a huge pile of HomeDespot building materials together and announced an intent to see if it would float him to the Islands and Points Beyond, we'd all think he was nuts and forget him in 2 days. The thing would float and probably outlast him. Heyerdahl did not make a floating condo out of this stuff and call it a yacht -
  2. I would say No. Further I would ask "What 'rep'? First I've heard of it. There have been how many? 3 or 4 capsized? And it IS a racing boat. A powered up and FAST racing boat. So that's not an outrageous number, like oh say the R33 for example... There have been lots of them bought for cruising and daysailing too, and they seem to be doing alright. So I would say No.
  3. Jeez, I would think after all that pedanticizing over the etymology of the terms for sheetrock, you guys would know that green sheetrock is not waterproof. Not even particularly water resistant really. The paper itself is 'mildly' more moisture resistant than the non-green stuff and that's it. More like mildew resistant. If it was actually waterproof, the joint compound (pretty sure they call it 'poi' in Hawaii) wouldn't stick to it...
  4. I hope he used Gorilla duct tape. (Couldn't have as his budget is too small, that stuff ain't cheap) Regular gray hardware store duct tape isn't waterproof. I will fall apart in mere days if wet enough.
  5. sorry couldn't resist
  6. "REAL power is something you take."
  7. . People keep comparing this to the Tin Can. For an endeavor that is so fundamentally similar, it is so very different. Similarities include - Both guys knowing they were doing things different than the norm, and believing they knew enough to do it anyway. Both guys would not take or could not get advice from professionals. But ahh the differences - This boat has no engineering. Tin can can had an overabundance of "engineering." But it was all wrong. This boat has no structure. Tin can had an over abundance of "structure." But he had no concept of material properties. (His welded aluminum scaffolding would snap in the slightest swells.) This boat has far too much freeboard and windage. Tin can had more structure than buoyancy, it had almost no hulls and far too much scaffolding. Its LWL was nearly at the submerged point. This boat is built of materials that are not compatible with wet environments. Tin can was all welded aluminum, which is not bad for a boat. But there is one more big difference. Hot Rod is following his dream on his own dime. As far as we know it's his money he is most certainly about to lose. Tin Can's failed attempt was all other people's money. So, I give HRod the nod for integrity. But I gotta wonder if maybe TinCanGuy was smarter, after all he didn't lose his 'own' life's savings...
  8. Aha! Leeboards! Classic time tested seaworthy design concept. He must have read about them somewhere. But, they will add to the stresses trying to separate his cat into a tri.
  9. "According to National Geographic the speed of the Titanic at the time of impact with the ocean floor was nearly 35 mph. It took approximately 24 minutes for the vessel to strike bottom. The rate of descent has been estimated at 500' per minute. The ocean depth is nearly 13,000 ft where the hull rests in two pieces." So, yes.
  10. There was a guy a while back who started a Farrier cat, claimed he had enough helpers and funds to fast track the build, insisted he would be in the water in something like 3 months.. He just didn't understand why all the neighsayers. (Things like you can't lay up and cure that much glass in that short of time, no matter how many man hours you can afford...) Also note that he was never heard from again...
  11. because those Buccs rarely sell for more than $1500 Correct! And I just reread my post - it sounds snooty. Sorry about that. but -Damn- that thing is ugly in person. And missing half its standing rigging. I'm surprised the mast is still up. I guess I just don't understand why somebody bought that when there's an almost mint Cherubini Hunter 27 with AC and hot water for sale for $6000 two slips down.
  12. That would be a Bayliner Buccaneer 272. (277 if diesel) Could be worse, much worse... It could be one of these - or these -
  13. .. from a 30+ year perspective, a bottle of wine makes a good club.