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  1. 28 foot cruisers?

    More detailed video of mast raising/lowering system on TES 28:
  2. 28 foot cruisers?

    The TES 28 Magnam and TES 24 are interesting sailboats if you’re after space and headroom and not sail performance. Polish made with a dealer in Canada. CE B/C certification with an optional CE A certification for fixed keel version on 28. The 28 is only a few inches wider than bmiller’s old Compac 27. Keel up 1’2”, Keel down 4’7”. Inboard optional. enclosed head, optional heating, hull and deck are glued, fastened then laminated together. Deck is hand laid Airex sandwich. Both the 24 and 28 have an interesting tripod arrangement for raising and lowering the mast at sea or for trailering. Some cool concepts in these boats, just don’t know anything about them (i.e., build quality, port/chainplate leakage, etc). 28 Magnam Specs: LOA: 28’ LWL: 26'-0" Beam: 9'-11" Head Room: 6'-1" Displacement from: 6,400lbs Internal fixed ballast: 1760 lbs Swing keel weight: 220 lbs Sail area: 380ft² Main / Jib: 223ft²/157 ft² New ones are comparable to Compac’s in price. Maybe not that many used ones around yet….. Would be interested on hearing what the forum thinks about these. Here’s some videos: Mast lowering video here (this is super cool):
  3. 28 foot cruisers?

    How about a Seaward 26RK. Not quite a 28 but: Shoal sailing, lifting keel and rudder, trailerable (no special permits required), mast raising system, enclosed head, minimal brightwork. Some have diesels, 5'9" headroom may be a problem. 26RK's are slightly over your budget but you might find a bargain. Resale value is good. Here's one on Yachtworld: http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/2005/Hake---Seaward-HK-26-2627641/Point-Pleasant/NJ/United-States#.UfX06W3Byk8