JulianB

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  1. JulianB

    New Olympic Dinghy Selection

    Yes Jonas, that is exactly what I did, only I was on ski's, and there was snow on the ground, I doubt anywhere near as good. That guy (girl) looks like they know what they are doing.
  2. JulianB

    New Olympic Dinghy Selection

    From my POV, when you start to look at anything to do with the sport of sailing, its all focused around generating meaning energy from the velocity differences between the air and the water. What you do with that energy, after you have generated it is up to the individual. And that's a 2nd order effect. Occasionally I sail on a classic, I would call it a lead mine but its pig iron, 22 tonne, I think, that one form of sailing I also sail on a Farr 30 and also a Farr 40, plus a 49er plus a laser, all completely different types of sailing. I have foiled, I have windsurfed, I have attempted kite-surfing (poorly) Your definition certainly includes Kite-surfing, but again, you have gone past #1 and into #2 or #3. What is control, what are you trying to control. I know the answer is obvious but your at #2 or #3 down the chain
  3. JulianB

    New Olympic Dinghy Selection

    dsolnick, glad you like it, my fathers wing the air, wing in the water and a bit of low drag flotation also works (except for Ice and Land sailing) sosoomii, try and keep it in context, we are talking about a sport, and I was about to say, not a profession, but I am sure you get the drift.
  4. JulianB

    Future Olympic lightweight-female dinghy

    No point at all!
  5. JulianB

    New Olympic Dinghy Selection

    So I like to come back down to first principles when trying to define anything like this. That can be the simplest or the fewest number fo word that defines a concept, because when you strip it right back, you come up with 1st principals, or the purest concept. At 9 words, think mine is pretty pure/short. Also its the sport of Sailing, it's not a Sail, and it's not Yachting, it's Sailing! I like Wikipedia, its peer-reviewed and tends to be current and relevant, I happen to also throw a few shekels there way monthly, but they are a tad wordy for my liking. Sailing employs the wind—acting on sails, wingsails or kites—to propel a craft on the surface of the water (sailing ship, sailboat, windsurfer, or kitesurfer), on ice (iceboat) or on land (land yacht) over a chosen course, which is often part of a larger plan of navigation. That definition "throws the cat among the pigeons". The other one I like is my father's definition:- Wing in the air, wing in the water and a bit of low drag flotation. (but its 15 words) Even Ice (dare I say) yachting, falls nicely into dad's words, low drag flotation and the "wing in the water" even if its a mm is done by the skates. Few years back I was in Helsinki, November and I got taken to a pond, had a pair of skies on and was given a kite which I held in my hands and torn across very thin snow on what appear to be very thin ice, lots of fun, but I was holding this kits airborne, effectively I was the mast, the bits of fibreglass where the yards and nothing at all was wrong with this, and in my eyes, that was part of the sport of sailing. Also in Helsinki on a billboard on the way into the city where the words "Innovate or die"! The hardest things for humans to do, accept change, that's why I like Wikipedia, because its peer-reviewed and it changes. We all sail around with some form of Mylar or CYT dacron these days, both a plastic, even 100 years ago, a sail was canvas or Egyptian cotton, and "plastic" would never have been seen in a sail. Time to move on.
  6. JulianB

    New Olympic Dinghy Selection

    So what is "sailing" in its purest form, what is the definition? Once you get there, then, you end this debate. I believe its the "exploitation of the different velocities of 2 mediums". I can't get it any simpler except that gliding/soaring could easily have the same definition. So if you complicate it one level, (to compartmentalise sailing away from soaring) then you end up at "exploitation of the different velocities of air and water". So if you can get to this point, then what is and what is not "sailing" becomes obvious. If you complicate it any further, all you are doing is attaching your tags to the debate, and you have lost the moral high ground! End of conversation!
  7. JulianB

    29er Spinnaker Halyard Routing

    You cant run the halyard outside with the new fitting set-up, and yes, with the old system it was lower drag, but with the new system, that's not the case. Halyards should go behind the Trap and Shroud spacers. One trick, pull the existing halyards tight, lay the mast with the masthead about 6 ft (2m) above the butt and suspend it at the tip and the butt so the mast bends backwards, track downwards. Put a hose in the top so plenty of water is running down the aft face of the mast, and slowly enter the spin halyard through its exit hole. Initially, you will need to feed it in but once it gets significantly into the water flow it will just get pulled down the back of the mast free from twists and tangles. Once it pops out the bottom, you just feed it out of the exit slot. Pretty simple. Ciao. JB
  8. JulianB

    New Olympic Dinghy Selection

    Absolutely, it is their job to test the limits so by definition they need to find where it breaks! And break, it will, over and over again! Jb
  9. JulianB

    New Olympic Dinghy Selection

    I have little doubt that various entities will make pitches. But they (RS) need to be careful, if they get up in say the doublehanded slot, that will work against them in the singlehander slot. I have 2 Olympic classes, at one stage I had 3 and that was very much known as 1 too many. Plus managing 2 new entries into the Olympics as in 2 new classes would be impossible. Had this conversation at a Tasar function yesterday. Non-Olympic boats tend to be own by the sailors. Olympic boats are owned of funded in most part by MNA's or Clubs, and the sole focus is performance. Sure, lots of entries and "privateers" but the RS from the major nations set the pace. So if they break a boat, they get a new one, it's an incentive to break the boat~! Any little nitch will be found and be exploited be it destructive or performance gaining and that nitch will become known and they will do the +/- thing and it will break. There are no niceties about this, its business, they don't give a damm, and they get outraged when say they pack a 49er rudder stock with Hard packing, which breaks the stock, and I refused to increase the casting because all that would do is break the rudder blade or the pintals (both of which they do)! So some, person in the back on nowhere starts a campaign to discredit me, because his pet project, was no longer. Welcome to the Olympic world. Jb
  10. JulianB

    New Olympic Dinghy Selection

    The 470 is the obvious one, but by no means the only one. Jb
  11. JulianB

    New Olympic Dinghy Selection

    The forestay on a 29er is lucky if it ever exceeds 20% of UTS, its stretch, at that load is negligible, so it really dose not matter if you put 31 or 70 on the shrouds, your never going to alter the rake beyond a minuet of a degree. all you will do is bend the gunwhales up! The turnbuckle rule in the 29er came from the floor of the WC meeting, it had to do with being caught out with the wrong setting and not want to go though the BS that the 49er went through pre turnbuckles. I believe that FS tensions range now between 21 & 26, which is dramatically less than pre turnbuckles, so the ability to alter the tension "on the fly" has moderated the extremes dramatically. On the face of it that has to be a good thing. The adjustable FS on the 29er, has to do with the tendency of the existing mast "cannoning" so sliding into each other. We simply don't have that issue with the 49er carbon mast, because they butt against each other. So the 49er has no adjustment. Again that has to be a good thing! Re a rule boat, ever few years, we do a comparison and compare sails by sq m, and even the laser has significantly cheaper sails per sq/m than just about any "rule boat". Yes we have done masts also, and only speaking as a "9er" person, the comparisons are even more favorable. This is very well documented. So that's not a realistic idea! I often long for the altruistic idea of open development, I wonder where that would take us, but the reality is, I would think, we would loose 90% of our sailors. JB
  12. JulianB

    New Olympic Dinghy Selection

    If you define Gold fleet as the top 25, then you have about another 25 who are would be's if they could be's and occasionally are. But then you have the next 40-50 boat who are there for the fun and the ride, and if they ever made it into the gold fleet, it would be bar bragging right for a year! The issue with these guys is they want "real" bits of kit, not some trial stuff that has no long term value. Their time is whats important, and to switch out a rig is just wasted time. And yes they do buy and we only want maybe 10 year one, and 20-30 year two. That's absolutely perfect, and if given the option, they jump at it! I assure you there is no shortage of those people in either class. We have certainly no shortage of people willing to, say, trial the new mast concepts provided we don't mess them about. Talking 49ers now, have not even canvased anything to do with 29ers. They want a legal mast, they don't want something they have to give back. And sure we sweeten the pie by making a discount, but they should get a discount, they are doing a huge service to every other sailor. The key thing is that they be used in anger! So completely dis-agree with you. Putting say 10 x 49er masts out there that have no value means that every sailor for the next 5 years is paying a bit of those mast, plus the extra that it costs to retro fit after a hot launch and the inevitable un-foreseen issue. You pay for this, that's the reality. We have to get out of this mind set! And this is for every int class that has significant size fleets. Jb
  13. JulianB

    New Olympic Dinghy Selection

    OK, 24 hrs so here goes. Re numbers and Olympics, I happen to be in Lake Garda, having a respite before heading to Sarasota and the WS conference. Just heard I have designed a new single hander with a trapeze, new to me but the old adage, BS in, BS out! But there are 135 x 29ers here and a very big contingent of UK sailors and in passing yesterday and confirmed last night at dinner from someone in the RYA, I was told that the UK lotteries gives RYA a significant amount of $$$ based on their medal count. By significant, 4-5 times what WS get from the IOC. No sailing the Olympics, RYA would be in very sorry state. That's a direct correlation, and well done Rod Carr and the RYA. Most countries, its far less obvious, but most of Europe certainly, Australia also gets $$$ based on medal count from the AOC and Govt. No Olympics, no $$$. And a bit of shameless self promotion, given that I am at a 29er event, https://www.facebook.com/FragliaVelaRiva/videos/249778152384974/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Re Mastrom and Roberts and technical racing. Immediately I think of the Marathon and all the technicalities in that, and its nominally "the" Olympic sport. The 100m dash, its just a different type of technicality. The only string there is holding their shorts up, most don't even have shoe laces any more. To say one boat is more technical than another because it has more strings, as an industrial design student, it was always hammered into you that poor design has lots of add on's, really good design is deceptively simple. I marvel at 5o5's and I14s with all their strings, I did sail a 18teen once (Goodman Feilder) with 14 separate controls, and that's not including the mainsheet, spinnaker sheets, jib sheet and halyard/tack lines, and did we get to use them all. Rarely. Is that boat more technical than the kids sailing out in front of me now, who don't even have enough time to pull the centerboard up, let alone ease the out-haul. Would they go faster if they did, absolutely, but the time it takes to do it is not worth it. To say that a 49er is non technical belies what goes on behind the scenes, its just that once the gun goes, if your crusing up wind at 12-13 knots, and the top mark is 3 mins away, to spend even 15secs doing anything more than tweak the downhaul is very painful. If your doing 5 knots, and the top mark is 15 mins away, its a very different sum. They are very different sorts of technical discipline in play. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Re the Nacra. We, as in the 49er had pain, and a lot of it, so I feel for the guys in the Nacra. And they are not solely Dutch, there is a Aussie in there and the name in US. But we had Ian Bruce, we had the Tasar and the B14 and the Laser ii legacy, even still, nothing prepares you for the Olympic experience. I will equally feel for any new equipment that comes into the games, because they wont know what hit them, they will loose a un-believable amount of money getting it right and all the time, people on places like this will give them hell. Do I think I could have done the Nacra better, of-course I do because I have been through it, but I have no idea of there backing, I even heard stories even yesterday at lunch about how this was wrong and why are they so stupid, but until you have been in that hot seat yourself, then you really have no right to comment. And if you have been there, you wont comment! Do I want to do it, nope, hopefully never again. It ain't fun! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Re trialing equipment, the hot test is so stupid, but it seems to be ingrained in sailing ethos. It ends up costing everyone more than they have to and it makes life very un-pleasant. But given we now have fleets, given that "gold fleet" say is 25 boats, then we need to get to the point where you introduce a new idea say 2 years out, but you introduce into the emerald fleet first, then after a year, you let silver fleet have it, then as at a certain date, anyone has it. So as a sailor, just coming into a class you buy an old boat, and when you go to up-grade, you buy new gear, you sail that in Emerald fleet. Next year you may be going better, few extra bits and you move to Silver, and if your very lucky by the 3rd your playing in the big league. If you get better quicker, its a good problem to have, and the guys in the gold fleet are turning over gear pretty fast anyway, so it not a big deal for them. It is by far the cheapest way to do the transition. From a builder POV, its also measured and you can make tweaks as you go through, plus the guys in Emerald and Silver are far harder on gear than the RS's. So by the time it gets to full introduction, its 95% de-bugged. Last point, if the RS with existing gear, can't stay infront of the WW's with new gear, then they should not be RS! (RS = Rock Star, WW = Weekend Warrior) Hopefully we will do this, this year with the 49er class and the simplification of the mast, which is happening now, we should have 10 masts out there this year, but they can't be used by gold fleet or Olympic sailors. Hopefully we will get them used in anger, well tested pus useful feed back from all the sailors, those using them and those competing against them. Introduction for everyone after the last race of Tokyo. Cheapest and best world for everyone. Jb
  14. JulianB

    New Olympic Dinghy Selection

    Ohhh, let me think about that for 24 hrs. Jb
  15. JulianB

    New Olympic Dinghy Selection

    Re numbers, the amount of resources any govt or council or organisation will put into a activity will be dependent on its relevance. In NZ, there is a long history of support, and to some extent that support wont go away even if the sport leaves the Olympics, but simple things like access to the water, we here every day about the fishnets in Enoshima Bay, I have experienced them first hand, and they take priority over recreational sailing. There would be no recreational sailing at Enoshima if it was not for the (1960?) Tokyo Olympics. Re long term testing, we had 156 49ers sailing before we where selected, they had been sailing for 2 years, on every continent, and that was simply irrelevant once Olympic competition kicked in. Its even now near impossible to get even Silver and Emerald fleet sailors to take anything new and trial it prior to launch, so you always end up with "hot launches", baptisms of fire. I can give you countless examples, where something had had been used on the boat for 6-7-8 years, you change something else and all of a sudden, that part, that had worked for 6-7-8 years faultlessly, fails spectacularly. The one that immediately comes to mind is the head board of the mainsail, can't even remember what we change but all of a sudden 20-30 headboards started ripping out because of one fashion or another. We where extraordinarily lucky we simply doubled the 18teen scantling, for the 49er, sure boat is 20kgs heavier than it needs to be, but it saved our bacon.